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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by hutch-- on Today at 01:12:11 PM »
Over its 4.5 billion year history, this planet has seen events that make the current concerns look like a Sunday School Picnic. Krakatoa was a pop gun along side the earlier one in the north of modern Indonesia, Mount Toba about 70 to 75 thousand years ago with an estimated 2,800 cubic km of ash and lava.

The extinction event that wiped out most of the dinosaurs was probably caused by a massive meteor that hit the gulf of Mexico about 65 million years ago. The greatest pollution scare the world has seen was oxygen, it killed off most life forms on the planet. In one of the epochs, the oxygen level was over 30 percent. Go back far enough and the whole planet was frozen, it was eventually thawed out by carbon dioxide.

Then there is the major greenhouse effect which is water vapour which is part of the planet's temperature regulation, the more water vapour (clouds) the more sunlight that gets reflected which in turn drops the average temperature of the planet. Carbon dioxide acts as a buffer to smooth out the temperature variation.

Climate hysterics and media driven scare mongering serve one purpose, trying to drive more money and control to a global banking cartel, it does not help to maintain an environment that is friendly to human beings. Instead of pissing money into such a cartel, the money is better spent on something useful, cleaning up the environment from industrial pollution and discarded domestic garbage that end up in the sea.
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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by Siekmanski on Today at 11:19:11 AM »
We all accept that there is some sort of correlation between CO2 and temperature data over long term cycles.
But is it cause or effect?

In the last 19 years, avarage temperature is very stable and refuses to follow temperature in Michael Mann's hockey stick model.
If we had to believe Nasa's Jim Hansen, sea level should have risen 3 meters by now and the Arctic ice shouldn't exist anymore.
Luckily Jim Hansen was assigned to the Political Science Department of NASA, and not the real NASA where results actually matter.



Do we understand the different interpretations of the climate discussion?

Why are climate models not representative with measured data?
Why are there so many different temperature trends?
Why are not all available known datasets included in the models?
Why are temperature datasets altered lately?
What about the satellite temperature data?
Is CO2 impact on global atmosphere significant?

Normally, if you somehow arrive at an absurd result, you start looking for mistakes, misunderstandings etc.
The real problem starts however when you refuse to believe, that many of 'climate scientists' can be that stupid to overlook the mistakes. When chalenged to a debate most of them nicely decline.

Jochen I'm not a climate scientist either, but I'm very curious how it is science have become more and more religious and driven more and more by politics. And by religious I mean that discussions and debates are difficult or not possible. ( very unscientific behaviour)
Because you have the chance to loose your career?
The fundings of climate change research is also debatable.

[provoke modus]
Global Carbon TAX scam?
[/provoke modus]

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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by HSE on Today at 09:59:48 AM »
You see, the process of blowing CO2 back into the atmosphere is over a Million times faster than the process of storing it (the same applies to species loss btw). You can discuss some details (the role of coal, for example), but the big picture is that mankind is releasing all the stored CO2 back into the atmosphere in the twinkling of an eye, geologically speaking.

CO2 is very dangerous issue. If we discover that Warming really is going to endanger humanity it's posible to take mesures, but  CO2 persist in upper atmosfere at least 500 years (perhaps 1000, say Tim Palmer in an Perimeter Institute presentation)

Forget about Venice and the Netherlands, though.

You don't need nothing catastrophic to that. Sea level variations in last 2 million years was around 80 mts, and now is around 50 mts above minimun. An increase of 30 mts must be seeing as "normal".

The only critical effect of a real warming could be the lost of infrastructure placed at less than 30 msn


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ASMC Development / Re: Asmc source and binaries
« Last post by nidud on Today at 07:29:36 AM »
Added a new release: https://github.com/nidud/asmc/releases

Only small changes but the source wont assemble with the current binaries, mostly related to parsing header files. One of the issues was using the header for dynamic linking using msvcrt.dll with linkw. The default setting was either using the -pe switch or linkw + libc.

Some new pragma directives added:

- .pragma warning(push)
- .pragma warning(pop)
- .pragma(warning(disable: <num>))
- .pragma comment(lib, "name.lib"[, "name2.lib"])

.pragma comment(lib, libc, msvcrt) will expand as follows:

ifdef __PE__
option dllimport:<msvcrt>
elseifdef _MSVCRT
includelib msvcrt.lib
else
includelib libc.lib
endif


The pragma init and exit directives now use the same segments as VC. The record size is equal in both 32 and 64-bit (8 bytes) where the first DWORD is the function address and the next priority. This means the 64-bit record holds a relative address from ImageBase. They are read-only records (CONST) and may now be reused as appose to the old version where records was cleared after use.

.CRT$XI0 CONST .rdata 0043a000 00000008
.CRT$XIA CONST .rdata 0043a008 00000030
.CRT$XIZ CONST .rdata 0043a038 00000008
.CRT$XT0 CONST .rdata 0043a040 00000008
.CRT$XTA CONST .rdata 0043a048 00000020
.CRT$XTZ CONST .rdata 0043a068 00000008

Init records are added to XIA and terminators to XTA.

The 64-bit version of LINK provides a global symbol __ImageBase which enable direct calculation of an address. This may be achieved by using a macro above the main module. The live version is GetImageBase().

include stdio.inc
include winbase.inc

DeclImageBase

main proc

    printf("GetImageBase(): %p\n", GetImageBase())
    printf("&__ImageBase:   %p\n", &__ImageBase)
    ret

main endp

    end

GetImageBase(): 0000000000400000
&__ImageBase:   0000000000400000
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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by jj2007 on March 24, 2019, 10:49:24 PM »
I like to hear and learn from you what is scientifically wrong with the presentation of James Taylor. ( "The Heartland Institute"  the first link I posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2zl1PDJxuc )

Taylor is a lawyer by training, but he works for industries that have an interest in spreading confusion about climate change because action against climate change threatens their profits.

You could say the same about anybody who works for Greenpeace, of course. Since I am a scientist but not a climate scientist, I am not the right person to go into the details of his presentation. There are certainly some interesting points.

Have a look at the big picture (pun intended):



In the last 400,000 years, CO2 concentrations were always somewhere below 300ppm. That has changed with the industrial revolution - we are now at 400ppm, see the extreme right of the graph. Note that the CO2 concentration follows very slowly the CO2 emissions, so much more will come.

Put it differently: About 250 Million years ago, dinosaurs populated the Earth. The climate was extremely different, and sea levels were a hundred metres or so above the current levels. You live in the Netherlands, you know what that means.

Dinosaurs ate a lot. Really, a lot. No problem, the climate was hot and very humid, rich in CO2, so plant growth was incredibly high. There was enough food for these monsters (Britannica, sciencing).

Then, gradually, the climate changed, and the accumulated biomass was very slowly transformed into sediments in areas that we know today as Venezuela or Saudi Arabia. Oil.

This process took 250,000,000 years. Then, around 1900 A.D., mankind discovered that burning fuel is a great way to enhance the quality of life for those who can afford a Ford Model T or a T-bone steak. So mankind started burning that former biomass accumulated over 250,000,000 years, and now, 120 years later, we have burnt a big share of that.

You see, the process of blowing CO2 back into the atmosphere is over a Million times faster than the process of storing it (the same applies to species loss btw). You can discuss some details (the role of coal, for example), but the big picture is that mankind is releasing all the stored CO2 back into the atmosphere in the twinkling of an eye, geologically speaking. At the end of this process, dinosaurs will again feel comfortable on this planet. Forget about Venice and the Netherlands, though.
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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by hutch-- on March 24, 2019, 09:36:56 PM »
 :biggrin:

> Marinus, by quoting such "sources", you put yourself in the extreme right corner. Is that really what you want?

Pre-defined evaluation based on heresay to denigrate a viewpoint.  :P
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CoderStudio / Re: Windows Projects
« Last post by Vortex on March 24, 2019, 08:51:36 PM »
Simple dialog box example.
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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by Siekmanski on March 24, 2019, 08:46:31 PM »
The Heartland Institute

Seriously?

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Bringing Full Socialism to America

And Steve Bannon rofl'ed and had a great day :greenclp:

Marinus, by quoting such "sources", you put yourself in the extreme right corner. Is that really what you want?

I'm neither left or right, it's just a label.
I'm listening to all arguments coming from all sides of the spectrum, trying to understand what is going on in the world and why.
Sometimes you have to provoke a little to open the eyes of people and to start a discussion so we can all learn from it.
In the case of climate change this mostly ends up in the different views people have in observations ( real science ) and predictions ( political driven alarmists )

Ofcourse I want clean air and get rid of all polution and poverty in the world.
But also I want to keep our society healthy without destroying our economy by stupid politicians making stupid decisions.

No one ownes Science but in my observations, the so called lefties think they do.

I like to hear and learn from you what is scientifically wrong with the presentation of James Taylor. ( "The Heartland Institute"  the first link I posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2zl1PDJxuc )

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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by jj2007 on March 24, 2019, 07:43:55 PM »
The Heartland Institute

Seriously?

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Bringing Full Socialism to America

And Steve Bannon rofl'ed and had a great day :greenclp:

Marinus, by quoting such "sources", you put yourself in the extreme right corner. Is that really what you want?

P.S.: The "Heartland Institute" is well known in the scene, although for my taste its influence is exaggerated (SourceWatch):

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"Mr. Joseph Bast, president and CEO of the Heartland Institute, testified ... this Court finds that Mr. Bast is not a credible witness and that he did not offer reliable opinions in this matter. While Mr. Bast described himself as an economist, he holds neither undergraduate nor graduate degrees in economics, and the highest level of education he completed was high school.

With such a "CEO", and a budget of only around 5 Mio US$, HI is not a serious player, and ranks far down in Exxon's list of funding recipients. Remember Donald T and Hillary C spent around one Billion US$ for their "democratic" election campaigns. That is serious. HI is more in the white supremacy and alt right league, although, as the NZ shooting shows, they can be dangerous, too.
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The Soap Box / Re: Here is one for the climate wowsers.
« Last post by Siekmanski on March 24, 2019, 06:09:55 PM »
Climate Change facts, you won't hear on the mainstream media.
Explains why we are not in the midst of a climate crisis.

Climate Change Session at CPAC 2019 by The Heartland Institute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2zl1PDJxuc

Full version:
AOC's Green New Deal: Debunking the Climate Alarmism Behind Bringing Full Socialism to America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBQfAQnnUao
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