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Xnke

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New Member, trying to find a forum for Motorola 68HC11 help
« on: April 01, 2017, 04:13:57 PM »
So I am a gearhead-I run a business making custom engine parts and I do custom fuel injection installations. I have used varous systems in the past, however I am more and more coming into using GM computers and systems-they are well documented, well supported and there are many programmers out there than are familiar with them. Before I can recommend them to customers (I don't sell programs, tunes, or computers, I just assist with getting them installed using the hardware I build for them) I need to be able to demonstrate how well they work and how stable they are in my own vehicle.

However, the system I chose to work with, while well documented, does not support the manifold pressure sensor I am using, and the programming has not been yet modified. It does run *very* well in non-supercharged form, and the initial testing showed that while the new program interprets the sensor's signal correctly, i.e. the ADC is done properly, the sensor is only read one time and then never updates again-if I can get it to update again, then the patch *should* work properly.

I have a complete disassembly that is known to be accurate and I have a patch that *should* have worked-the programmer who is writing the code is baffled as to why it doesn't work the way we had hoped. He is now swamped with home and family work, so he has very little time to help me now.

The hardware uses two different 68HC11 processors tied together over the SPI link, and I have the disassembled code for both sides. A patch has to be applied to both sides, although one side is only to pad space for the fix and to receive the emulated signal from the other side-there is very little to no room to work on that side.

I've worked with the Atmel ATmega128, in my limited C, but I've never worked in assembler before. If anyone here can help, it would be much appreciated-I will gladly respond with the disassembly, the patch that doesn't quite work, and as much detail as I can possibly provide-I also have picked up a book on working with the MC68HC11 that goes over assembly as well however I am not sure if the level of detail will be enough to help me.

Thanks for your help,

Jake

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Re: New Member, trying to find a forum for Motorola 68HC11 help
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 02:55:40 AM »
the 68HC11 instruction set is very similar to the original 6800 series
they added multiply and divide
and, they added an index register
a few other little odds and ends

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Re: New Member, trying to find a forum for Motorola 68HC11 help
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 07:12:59 AM »
With engine control systems you're looking at optimised assembly programming, tight interrupt controls and timing.
C programming and above doesn't cut it at this level.. unless you want a buggy engine with springs, nuts and bolts flying out in all directions (excuse the pun  :lol:).

I'd suggest study the manuals in my previous post links.

I've looked at updating many ancient micro-controller 'systems' , and without the original documentation, methods, ideas and implementation... it's just not worth it.. DUMP IT AND RUN !
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Re: New Member, trying to find a forum for Motorola 68HC11 help
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 08:00:48 AM »
If I may suggest an other microcontroller family....

I'm totally in love with the ATmel microcontrollers.  :icon_redface:
They are easy to program in assembly and there is a large community out there ( forums all over the net ) using them.
And they are very cheap

For example the ATmega328 ( USD 1.96 )

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