Author Topic: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".  (Read 351 times)

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Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« on: April 05, 2018, 11:46:03 AM »
I only found this bunch today and they have mastered the art of taking the p*ss out of many things including our crapheap government. This is a link on net neutrality in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFkzJc7kJKc
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2018, 04:49:46 PM »
It's nice to watch but I don't like the argument. Net neutrality sounds good, but there is a lot of fake in that idea. The defenders of nn want to make you believe that you will be cut off the internet, and that's the end of democracy.

Truth is that reading this post costs about 20 kBytes. Reading the news costs a lot more, not because there is so much text to read (it's negligible), but because of ads. Therefore it's closer to 20 MB, a factor 1,000.

Now add streaming to the picture: about 1MB per second, about 3 GB per hour. That's another factor 100. And not to forget, Micros**t: The Win10 updates. Gosh, it would be the end of democracy if Win10 could not be updated any more 8)

So, for non-news you need 100,000 x the bandwidth. But the nn defenders want to make you believe that it's the end of democracy, and that you can't pay for reading Masm32 news any more...

Nope, it may be the end of illegal streaming, and it may put a brake on video ads. On the other hand, by reducing excessive use of bandwidth, it will make all your non-streaming internet use faster.

Last but not least, the cost argument: Internet should be free, fullstop! Really? Who is the generous billionaire who pays for all the extra infrastructure that is needed for streaming your favourite movie? Why do you pay a monthly flat rate of 20 to 50 bucks? For the 20 kBytes of this post???

Net neutrality is an unholy alliance of illegal streamers and the advertisement industry.

My 2 cts (roughly the true cost of a 10MB download, or spending a month on the forum).

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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2018, 05:29:27 PM »
The argument that stays with me is "Do I want corporate control of the internet ?". I am yet to see in the American context what handing control to companies like Verizon does for society, particularly when internet access is generally seen as a utility, something like a telephone or having power from an electricity grid. When the only real argument is that of giving more control to corporations to improve their bottom line, it places the interests of corporations above the population and that is what the net neutrality debate has been about.
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 05:59:19 PM »
Big money will regulate our freedom, as always....
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 06:54:35 PM »
internet access is generally seen as a utility, something like a telephone or having power from an electricity grid.

Right. So if you had to pay a "flat rate" of 500 bucks a month for electricity, you would still defend your neighbour's right to heat his swimming pool with "free" electricity?

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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 04:58:46 AM »
But what's the current state of this issue in u.s?
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 09:33:15 AM »
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> Right. So if you had to pay a "flat rate" of 500 bucks a month for electricity, you would still defend your neighbour's right to heat his swimming pool with "free" electricity?

Its more the case that while you have to pay for your bandwidth, some sleazebag corporation also pays the same price but gets special privileges, higher speeds AND can claim it on their tax discounts so you are helping them pay for it through the back door. Do you give some sleazebag corporation content filtering rights over access to the international internet ?
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 10:15:46 AM »
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> Right. So if you had to pay a "flat rate" of 500 bucks a month for electricity, you would still defend your neighbour's right to heat his swimming pool with "free" electricity?

Its more the case that while you have to pay for your bandwidth, some sleazebag corporation also pays the same price but gets special privileges, higher speeds AND can claim it on their tax discounts so you are helping them pay for it through the back door. Do you give some sleazebag corporation content filtering rights over access to the international internet ?

I don't think so, everybody has to pay for the bandwidth he or she wishes.
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 10:35:22 AM »
Think this has to do with regulating content rather than your connection speed. Seems the big cable networks plans to actually reduce the speed of content they don't approve of, hide it from search engines and stuff like that.

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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2018, 10:58:04 AM »
And they don't discard charge more for some content. This seems to be the official privatization from what you know as the internet. Maybe in the future the internet will be like some menu (as in a smartphone) with some sites you can access (by paying). Any other site will be accessible with other companies (isp). So, it will be some isps for some sites and others for others sites. Finally what was known as the internet will be a bunch of sub private nets, customized for some customers. This companies will be very happy with this because they will know than the people will need to change from time to time of isp to access some site. This also will generate competition in the prices for the sites. Well, it will be the shitternet.
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Re: Australian satire from "thejuicemedia".
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2018, 10:58:55 AM »
Think this has to do with regulating content rather than your connection speed. Seems the big cable networks plans to actually reduce the speed of content they don't approve of, hide it from search engines and stuff like that.

Many examples of that...  -> YouTube, Facebook, twitter...... cable networks will follow.
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