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General => The Soap Box => Topic started by: hutch-- on February 01, 2023, 12:58:19 PM
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May be a better copy but this is the sewerage starting to hit the fan for Pfizer. Were you willing to risk your life for crap like this ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teVGPIQ8u0g
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So it was a secret that the vaccine did not stop transmission? Wow. Apparently I have hallucinations, because I saw lots of headlines and articles saying exactly that, a long time ago.
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> Apparently I have hallucinations
That may depend on what you have been smoking but claims of that type have been bandied around for some time and its governments propagating the myth that vaccination reduces or prevents transmission.
Vaccinated carriers are a greater risk of infecting others that anyone else.
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So it was a secret that the vaccine did not stop transmission? Wow. Apparently I have hallucinations, because I saw lots of headlines and articles saying exactly that, a long time ago.
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You must ask for a refund, unfortunately your government has signed a non-liability clause with BIG-PHARMA for the mRNA gene therapy (mislabeled as "vaccine") testing on humans.
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Those, who have studied psychology, just love antivaxxsers, as they are easy targets for mind manipulations.
When ever someone of those show in public and give their second hand opinions, many people see people, as who don't have their own minds.
That works in some countries, like North Korea very well and one other country, where 144 millions people, who don't care their best.
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having studies psychology at UNI long ago, I neither love or hate vaxers or anti vaxers. What I dislike is being fed bullsh*t about how vaccination was protecting society when it does NOTHING to prevent a vaccinated person being a covid (whatever flavour) carrier that infects other people.
Having been "pronged" by more things that most people, vaccines were exhaustively tested and those being vaccinated (at primary school and elsewhere) were not being used as guinea pigs for BIG PHARMA to make billions via dirty deal with desperate governments.
I don't remember them all, Polio vaccine, diphtheria–tetanus vaccine, smallpox, pertussis and there were others that I don't remember. Years of engineering meant many other tetanus shots and no side effects at all. This is the difference between traditional vaccines and this dangerous junk that governments are try to inflict on their populations.
Does anyone need to be reminded about Pfizer using African children as guinea pigs with the attendant deaths ?
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So it was a secret that the vaccine did not stop transmission? Wow. Apparently I have hallucinations, because I saw lots of headlines and articles saying exactly that, a long time ago.
Yes, and those who said this were labeled as slanderers and anti-vaxxers and passed through the filter of antihoax verification offices. Assuming that it stopped the disease, many people were forced to get it, it was intended to make ghettos for those who were against it and I don't know whether to put them in a warm room. Life was made impossible for many people who did not trust this vaccine.
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> Those, who have studied psychology, just love antivaxxsers, as they are easy targets for mind manipulations.
> When ever someone of those show in public and give their second hand opinions, many people see people, as who don't have their own minds.
We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended.
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So it was a secret that the vaccine did not stop transmission? Wow. Apparently I have hallucinations, because I saw lots of headlines and articles saying exactly that, a long time ago.
Yes, and those who said this were labeled as slanderers and anti-vaxxers
Well, NO. Those who said this were in many cases the ministries of health, warning that the vaccine does no longer prevent transmission, but that it was still successful at lowering the death rate from the infection by a factor 20-50. You seem to have completely forgotten that era, perhaps you should check your Long Covid status (assuming that you didn't get vaccinated).
Try googling covid vaccine transmission efficacy omicron
Recent example (https://theconversation.com/even-bivalent-updated-covid-19-boosters-struggle-to-prevent-omicron-subvariant-transmission-an-immunologist-discusses-why-new-approaches-are-necessary-197878):
By almost any measure, the vaccination campaign against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been a global success.
As of January 2023, more than 12 billion vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 have been administered in an effort that has saved countless lives – more than 14 million in the first year of vaccine availability alone. With a 95% efficacy in the prevention of severe infection and death, and better safety profiles than similar historically effective vaccines, the biomedical community hoped that a combination of vaccination and natural immunity might bring the pandemic to a relatively quick end.
But the emergence of new viral variants, particularly omicron and its array of subvariants, upended those expectations. The latest omicron strain, XBB.1.5. – dubbed “Kraken”, after a mythical sea creature – has rapidly become the dominant subvariant in the U.S. The World Health Organization is calling it the most contagious strain so far, with its success almost certainly attributable to an ability to dodge immunity from previous vaccines or infections.
The effort to get ahead of these ever-changing variants is also in part what has led the Food and Drug Administration to reconsider its approach to COVID-19 vaccination. On Jan. 23, 2023, the agency proposed that current guidelines for a series of shots followed by a booster be replaced by an annual COVID-19 vaccine that is updated each year to combat current strains.
Note this is exactly what has been done for the ordinary flu in the last decades, with a certain success.
Congrats to all the novaxxers here in the Forum, you have been extremely lucky :thumbsup:
(btw, is anybody missing?)
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The alternative to a "novaxer" is a vaccine scammer.
1. Does not prevent vaccinated carriers.
2. Has never been exhaustively tested like proper vaccines.
3. Why have the vaccine vendors been indemnified against law suites ?
4. What about the massive sums of money at stake for vaccine vendors ?
Those of us who have been vaccinated many times for many things can draw the distinction.
When it comes to megabucks, a scam is a scam. :thdn:
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> Congrats to all the novaxxers here in the Forum, you have been extremely lucky :thumbsup:
Novaxxers? or do you mean the people smart enough not taking part of the mRNA gene-therapy testing.
I have had all pre-Covid vaccinations but refused to take untested Covid mRNA gene-therapy. I'm not a lab rat.
From the beginning there were so many signs something fishy was going on.
Big-pharma exempt from prosecution for "vaccination" damages.
Fake news from China, people suddenly died in the streets etc.
I'm glad I didn't fall for the fear campaigns.
Maybe the vaccinated should be worried.
Normally after a period of excess deaths you should have a period of mortality deficit, not so after the covid "vaccines".
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Hi Siekmansky!
not taking part of the mRNA gene-therapy
Sound very dramatic, but somebody is lying to you. mRNA injection is some kind of infection, not related at all with genes.
Gene therapy is maked at ovocite time. Even embryos are to old for that.
HSE
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Hi Siekmansky!
not taking part of the mRNA gene-therapy
Sound very dramatic, but somebody is lying to you. mRNA injection is some kind of infection, not related at all with genes.
Gene therapy is maked at ovocite time. Even embryos are to old for that.
HSE
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-goes-into-liver-cells-and-is-converted-to-dna-study_4307594.html
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2105968118
Side-by-side important reports reverse transcription, nuclear DNA code for Spike, both significant discoveries.
Enormous implications of permanent chromosomal change and long-term constitutive Spike synthesis driving the pathogenesis of a whole new genre of chronic diseases.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMpoEIkWUAYAOdk?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMpoI8sWYAM9xEf?format=jpg&name=large)
I shouldn't be worried at all.
https://www.journal-of-hepatology.eu/article/S0168-8278(21)00237-3/fulltext
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:biggrin: It's what happen with any virus infection.
Now perhaps we know a little better how that work, because apparently is easy to recognize COVID spike.
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BionTech Annual Report
https://investors.biontech.de/node/6806/html
Page 21, last paragraph, ff.
Failure to obtain marketing approval for a product candidate will prevent us from commercializing the product candidate in a given jurisdiction. We have not received approval to market any biopharmaceutical product candidates from regulatory authorities in any jurisdiction, and it is possible that none of our product candidates, or any product candidates we may seek to develop in the future, will ever obtain regulatory approval. We have limited experience in filing and supporting the applications necessary to gain marketing approvals and may need to rely on third-party contract research organizations, or CROs, regulatory consultants or collaborators to assist us in this process. To our knowledge, there is no current precedent for an mRNA-based immunotherapy such as the type we are developing being approved for sale by the FDA, European Commission or any other regulatory agency elsewhere in the world. Although we expect to submit BLAs for our mRNA-based product candidates in the United States, and in the European Union, mRNA therapies have been classified as gene therapy medicinal products, other jurisdictions may consider our mRNA-based product candidates to be new drugs, not biologics or gene therapy medicinal products, and require different marketing applications. Securing regulatory approval requires the submission of extensive preclinical and clinical data and supporting information to the various regulatory authorities for each therapeutic indication to establish the product candidate’s safety and efficacy. Securing regulatory approval also requires the submission of information about the product manufacturing process to, and inspection of manufacturing facilities by, the relevant regulatory authority. Any product candidates we develop may not be effective, may be only moderately effective, or may prove to have undesirable or unintended side effects, toxicities or other characteristics that may preclude our obtaining marketing approval or prevent or limit commercial use.
The process of obtaining marketing approvals in the United States, the European Union and elsewhere, is expensive, may take many years if additional clinical trials are required, if approval is obtained at all, and can vary substantially based upon a variety of factors, including the type, complexity and novelty of the product candidates involved. Changes in marketing approval policies during the development period, changes in or the enactment of additional statutes or regulations, or changes in regulatory review for each submitted product application may cause delays in the approval or rejection of an application. The FDA, EMA and comparable authorities in other countries have substantial discretion in the approval process and may refuse to accept any application or may decide that the data are insufficient for approval and require additional preclinical, clinical or other trials. In addition, varying interpretations of the data obtained from preclinical and clinical testing could delay, limit or prevent marketing approval of a product candidate. Any marketing approval we ultimately obtain may be limited or subject to restrictions or post-approval commitments that render the approved product not commercially viable. Additional delays or non-approval if an FDA panel of experts, referred to as an Advisory Committee, or other regulatory authority recommends non-approval or restrictions on approval. In addition, we may experience delays or rejections based upon additional government regulation from future legislation or administrative action, or changes in regulatory agency policy during the period of product development, clinical trials, and the review process.
KEY 01 - Opening Ceremony - World Health Summit 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJFKBritLlc&t=5844s
"The mRNA vaccines are an example of cell and gene therapy. If we had done a public survey two years ago and asked who would be willing to take gene or cell therapy and have it injected into their body, probably 95 percent of people would have rejected it. This pandemic has opened a lot of people's eyes to innovation in a way that wasn't possible before."
Press conference after Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla refused to answer in front of European Parliament
MEP Cristian Terhes (Romania) - Listen from minute 4:38 to 12:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTgDj7uiX8&t=278s
How is that possible?
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They are sellers. And you are buying that.
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Dirty deals done in secret for megabucks between pharmaceutical companies and desperate governments, whats new. :tongue: