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Title: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Greenhorn on February 10, 2023, 06:28:02 AM
Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BcvjWArwD4
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 10, 2023, 06:37:31 AM
The West is BLIND with hypocrisy  :sad:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: caballero on February 10, 2023, 06:44:20 AM
> Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream

=:O
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: K_F on February 10, 2023, 07:26:12 AM
The West is BLIND with hypocrisy  :sad:
Siekmanski.. we must remember that this is only a pantomine, a Truman Show ( if you wish), to expose/take down the sicko's in this world.
There have been a lot of 'little' incidents like this, actually done by the 'good guys', in the elimination process.

Then the script blames the bad people, who have actually been eliminated in the 2016-2020 purge (Those dates look familiar..  :joking:), turning even their ardent supporters against them in shock and despair - You see them freaking out all over the place.  :wink2:

All media, gubbamunts.. ect have been under the good guy control for at least 8 years..  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: HSE on February 10, 2023, 08:47:36 AM
Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream

Nobody talking is a confirmation?
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 10, 2023, 08:57:09 AM
Der Spiegel (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/russland-duma-sprecher-wjatscheslaw-wolodin-bezeichnet-joe-biden-als-terroristen-a-b5b14034-ec08-47ce-90b1-6810be9c6828):
Quote
The background to the attack on the Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea last autumn remains unclear. The debate about the alleged perpetrators of the attack has now been rekindled by a report by the controversial US journalist Seymour Hersh. The 85-year-old Pulitzer Prize winner writes in his own blog, citing a single anonymous source, that US Navy divers destroyed the pipeline with explosive devices - allegedly in cooperation with Norway and on behalf of US President Joe Biden. According to Hersh, the unnamed source was directly familiar with the planning.

The White House has already denied the report, but Hersh did not produce any concrete evidence for his claim. "This is completely false and a complete fabrication," said US National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson. Norway has also sharply rejected the blog post.

In Russian leadership circles, meanwhile, the post is already being seen as propagandistic for US involvement. "Biden is writing himself into history as a terrorist," wrote the chairman of the Russian parliament, Vyacheslav Volodin, on his Telegram channel. He is considered a hardliner and loyal supporter of Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin. Earlier, media loyal to the Kremlin had already picked up Hersh's report.

Duma spokesman Volodin: "Compensations to the countries affected by the terrorist attack"
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Duma Speaker Volodin: "Compensations to the countries affected by the terrorist attack" Photo: IMAGO/Anton Novoderezhkin / IMAGO/ITAR-TASS
The blog post was also shared on Twitter by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, who is stuck in Russia, and Left Party MP Sarah Wagenknecht.

Increasing doubts about Hersh's credibility
Journalist Hersh, who worked for the New York Times for a time, became famous in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre by US troops in the Vietnam War. In 2004, he was the first to report on the treatment of Iraqi prisoners of war by the US army in Abu Ghuraib.

But in recent years, Hersh's credibility had suffered greatly, as he had repeatedly attracted attention through questionable research, not always providing valid evidence for his claims.

In 2013, for example, Hersh wrote in the London Review of Books, also with reference to a few anonymous sources: An attack with the poison gas sarin in the Syrian capital Damascus in the summer of 2013 was in fact a deception manoeuvre with the purpose of giving the USA a reason to intervene in the conflict. However, Hersh's account contained several gaps - and was later exposed as false by the British "Guardian", among others.

I believe the guy, but proof looks different.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 10, 2023, 09:01:55 AM
I just watched Palki Sharma on Firstpost.

Did U.S. Bomb Nord Stream Pipelines? | A Major Exposé | Vantage with Palki Sharma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2E-LQUKIHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2E-LQUKIHg)

The US response is sounding like Colin Powell on Iraq.  :tongue:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/0d153a1e-06f9-4274-b8ad-f3177c7345f8/d8gm4z1-3a6028f8-cf8a-48cb-91f6-688b5ef8eb04.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzBkMTUzYTFlLTA2ZjktNDI3NC1iOGFkLWYzMTc3YzczNDVmOFwvZDhnbTR6MS0zYTYwMjhmOC1jZjhhLTQ4Y2ItOTFmNi02ODhiNWVmOGViMDQuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.j7oyAVWJfqsGX5IZNIDH7S8WaEUiaN5FUQnuTy9XEYU)

The old Scud missiles were crude enough not to be easy to track or shoot down but they sure made a fool of the air defences used in Israel. They were fortunate enough that the old Scud's were not all that accurate and only ever landed approximately in the general area.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: caballero on February 10, 2023, 09:06:21 AM
Who knows? What we do know are the facts. Russia continues selling gas and refined oil to Europe through third countries, so it does not seem feasible that it was Russia itself to strangle Europe. On the other hand, the USA sells much more expensive gas to Europe, even Norway has increased its exports. The losers here are the EU and Russia.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: K_F on February 11, 2023, 08:30:26 AM
 :nie: :nie: :nie:

You've all been bullshitted to... Start here and see the new picture - Then look at the 'news' with new eyes.  :thumbsup:
https://amg-news.com/category/guantanamo-bay/
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 11, 2023, 08:50:53 AM
Hi Van,

The Goebbels elite (whoops, I mean the global elite) would consider such a site as a conspiracy theory site.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 11, 2023, 08:55:45 AM
Have you visited their shop, Hutch? Top quality products at really affordable prices. You will look 20 years younger if you by that cream, don't miss it.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 11, 2023, 09:10:47 AM
Nah, I don't want to look infantile.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: HSE on February 11, 2023, 09:43:52 AM
 :biggrin: Very interesting:

American Media Group is in Bavaria (https://check-host.net/ip-info?host=amg-news.com&csrf_token=168ea0f239465789a5b704a6d053bdd460395261).

Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 11, 2023, 04:17:25 PM
 :biggrin:

I woder how long it will take for the good folks in DE to tar and feather Scholz ? He could then be used as a mascot on the tanks that are supposed to be sent to Zelensky.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 12, 2023, 12:23:39 AM
USA is losing grip.
Next created crisis in the making....

I think they shot down a Tesla...  :biggrin:

https://twitter.com/TNTJohn1717/status/1624229781435719683

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ForpTR6XgAEb0ya?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Gunther on February 12, 2023, 02:41:15 AM
Der Spiegel (https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/russland-duma-sprecher-wjatscheslaw-wolodin-bezeichnet-joe-biden-als-terroristen-a-b5b14034-ec08-47ce-90b1-6810be9c6828):
Oh yes Der Spiegel! A consistently reputable source. They did have Claas Relotius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claas_Relotius) with a lot of fabricated stories and received millions
upon millions from the Gates Foundation - but otherwise consistently reputable.[/irony off]

I believe the guy, but proof looks different.
Since when do you five and dime statistician know anything about proof and evidence? All considered together you're a very hot candidate for the Claas Relotius Prize.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Greenhorn on February 12, 2023, 03:37:35 AM
Der Spiegel = "Bild am Montag"  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: K_F on February 12, 2023, 04:49:13 AM
Hi Van,

The Goebbels elite (whoops, I mean the global elite) would consider such a site as a conspiracy theory site.  :tongue:
:biggrin:
My take is that this is such controversial 'news', that it would gain a lot of traction if it were not for the MSM controllers.
The Americans would be up in arms about such 'fact checked and false' news and the lawyers would have swung into action many moons ago... yet nothing. :dazzled:
It would have been a field day against the 'consipracy nuts' and a massive propaganda coupe.... yet again nothing!
It's as if someone want to sweep it under the big lumpy carpet, where that elephant is hiding.

What I've done is taken that news to be true, and then all becomes very easy to see through the smoke and mirrors (convid included), the actors and the scripted show.
It's actually quiet enjoyable... sometimes downright hysterical the absolute sh.t they've come up with... and people believe it.. and this is the scary part.

What I've picked up is that the 'directors' take each scene of the show, right to the edge.... then it all falls flat, while people run around in circles, claiming the end of the world. Then they do it again with another scenario... and the people react (stupidly) again... Phuck,.. You cannot make this sh.t up.
 :rofl: :joking:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Gunther on February 12, 2023, 06:51:37 AM
Greenhorn,

Der Spiegel = "Bild am Montag"  :biggrin:

a good point.  :thumbsup: For our forum members who do not read German, a brief explanation: The newspaper BILD is a bad German scandal sheet. It belongs to the Yellow Press.
Der Spiegel is becoming more and more like it - that's no exaggeration.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: TimoVJL on February 12, 2023, 11:38:44 AM
Snapshots from world news
 teller (https://www.tellerreport.com/)
A Brown Press is there too :biggrin:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 12, 2023, 12:21:44 PM
Everything that comes out, in terms of Nordstream, Ukraine, Covid, Twitter, Pfizer...
Realize it doesn't make it into the mainstream.
That the Revelations don't reach the masses.
That almost everything is concealed from the people.
To the propaganda experts: We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 12, 2023, 02:22:40 PM
 :biggrin:
BREAKING: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says an “unidentified object” has been shot down over Canada.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624535503893585921

We going straight from the Covid Plandemic into some Alien invasion psy-op.  :thumbsup:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624498167541637125
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 12, 2023, 09:11:11 PM
Marinus,

We should be grateful to the Chinese that they use bright white balloons - they would be so difficult to spot if they were painted in dark blue.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Gunther on February 12, 2023, 10:35:09 PM
Marinus,

We going straight from the Covid Plandemic into some Alien invasion psy-op.  :thumbsup:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624498167541637125
that may well be. Obviously, a new narrative is to be built. We'll find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: caballero on February 13, 2023, 12:10:50 AM
The truth is that we have an elephant in the room. What will happen when Biden walks into the room? Will the EU or Germany ask for explanations? Probably not, but there is the elephant, what do we do with it?

I have the impression that a communist society is being built in Europe so that everything depends on the state, which are the four illiterate people who reach that position by promising to steal from the rich to give it to me. I could see it well if those who came to power were enlightened, respectful and honorable people.

So that there is nothing between society and the state, everything is destroyed. The economy, so that we depend on the ration card. The family, with an irrational war between man and woman with the so-called feminism. Society with similar interests that could hold the government accountable, diluting it into an excess of immigration. Anything that could escape the control of the state must be destroyed.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 12:58:30 AM
Hi Guther,
We are living in a dystopian time.
All those screamers who kept screaming that we should 'follow the science' are silent now.
Liars fear one thing: the truth

The dystopian future of a society bereft of reason....
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 01:14:00 AM
Marinus,

We should be grateful to the Chinese that they use bright white balloons - they would be so difficult to spot if they were painted in dark blue.

Jochen,

Why? It's useless to use your eyes if your mind is blind.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Gunther on February 13, 2023, 01:53:45 AM
Marinus,

Liars fear one thing: the truth
That's clear.

The dystopian future of a society bereft of reason....
You have to be patient a little longer. Remarkable things are happening in the background. Take a look at New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern, a sharpshooter, unexpectedly announced her resignation in January 2023.
Or in the U.S: The FBI searched the private property of the acting president. This is really not an everyday occurrence. The FBI usually follows the Deep State's instructions. It appears that Biden has had his day.
But the vice president (running mate) is not very popular either. You hardly see Kamala Harris in public anymore. It's all going to be very exciting.

Another oddity: Normally RAND publishes papers to some effecs, which are then processed by the U.S. government. But now there are brand new sounds from the infamous RAND Corporation. Anyone can read and
download that from their website - if they want to.

I suspect by August/September of this year, there will be some shifts in the US. These changes don't necessarily have to be negative. Of course, I could be wrong, but this is the Year of the Rabbit. These years often
finish what was previously prepared in the Year of the Tiger. There are many examples of this. And since December 2022, one also notices clear signs of change. You just have to look carefully and not parrot without
sense and reason what is proclaimed in the mainstream. Some people you should really ask: Where do you let think? You know what I mean, of course. :cool:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 03:52:33 AM
Hi gunther,

We will see... a shift is already taking place.
I know exactly what you mean.  :cool:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Gunther on February 13, 2023, 04:00:26 AM
Marinus,

We will see... a shift is already taking place.
of course; there are clear signs of that.

I know exactly what you mean.  :cool:
That's exactly why I formulated it that way my friend.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Greenhorn on February 13, 2023, 06:19:06 AM
A Message to Germans—Nord Stream Bombing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja5wpk7LMBg
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 13, 2023, 09:49:43 AM
 :biggrin:

There are good signs coming from around the world, much of the sheer bullsh*t that we all have been fed is being exposed at last.

From the old Bob Sylan song,

For the times they are a-changin'
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 10:59:35 AM
> "There are good signs coming from around the world, much of the sheer bullsh*t that we all have been fed is being exposed at last."

Do you hear the silence of the Propaganda Experts?

The evidence is now 100% proven.  :biggrin:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624829716531232769
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 11:24:37 AM
The Epstein client list is about to be exposed.
If this is true... shit will hit the fan.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoyfJHVaEAEmNZL?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 12:22:57 PM

Every time, you see some BS that the schills want you to look at, especially when they (Main Stream Media)  are all in lock-step, look around for what they are trying to hide.


This is a standard tactic of the Left/Cabal.
Another tactic is to accuse people of the exact same thing they are doing themselves.

So just for giggles, let's entertain the UFO thought for a moment.

They think they can shoot down a craft from an alien Universe/Solar system / planet, but not only that, they are picking a fight with an opponent of unknown ability.
An ability to travel across the vastness of space. Yea, our tech to them would be the same as "Bows and Arrows" to us.

So either the so-called Aliens are incredibly stupid or they think people watching their garbage are stupid.

I haven't smelt that much Bull Sh%$ (technically it was Cow Sh%$, but you get the idea) since I worked on my relative's Dairy farm back in the 1980's.

Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
 :biggrin:

> "So just for giggles, let's entertain the UFO thought for a moment."

Let's do that.  :thumbsup:

NOW - U.S. military shot down an unidentified flying object over Lake Huron moments ago.
A F-16 fighter jet shot down the object over Lake Huron.
The object was shaped like an octagon and was at an altitude of 20,000 feet, posing a hazard to commercial aircraft.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624894289783169029

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624821688490774537

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624805823808430081

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624826539006169098
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 13, 2023, 12:38:20 PM
Sounds like fun :thumbsup:

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/object-shot-down-lake-huron-21223/index.html

Quote
The US military does not have new information on the country of origin or the physical or mechanical properties of the three objects downed over North America in the past three days, Gen. Glen VanHerck, the commander of the US Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command, told reporters Sunday.

As a fan of James Bond movies, I suspect that Elon Musk has his dirty hands in that affair :cool:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 12:40:04 PM
:biggrin:

> "So just for giggles, let's entertain the UFO thought for a moment."

Let's do that.  :thumbsup:

NOW - U.S. military shot down an unidentified flying object over Lake Huron moments ago.
A F-16 fighter jet shot down the object over Lake Huron.
The object was shaped like an octagon and was at an altitude of 20,000 feet, posing a hazard to commercial aircraft.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1624894289783169029 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1624894289783169029)
Well you know what, they probably think that if you fell for the mass formation Plandemic, you will probably fall for this excrement.

Wow the US military are supermen. Being able to shoot down a craft that is hundreds of years more advanced than what we have.
The cabal are getting desperate.

Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 12:41:58 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoyMO_sWYAE54J-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 13, 2023, 12:44:01 PM
Controling with one "l", is that spelling already part of the New World Order? Do we have to relearn English?
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 12:48:16 PM
 :thumbsup: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 12:52:08 PM

This might be Blue Beam in Action.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/70pjjxw6euk1pgt/BlueBeam.mp4?dl=0
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 12:57:30 PM
I had to zip the cartoon.
It's attached.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 12:58:25 PM
What is the real story they are distracting us from right now?
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 01:09:38 PM
What is the real story they are distracting us from right now?
It could be that train derailment in Ohio where they decided to burn the spill of vinyl Chloride so it will settle on farmland.

Or, there is a rumour that the EU parliament wants to microchip everyone. Don't know if that is real or pure BS.
https://lawyerlisa.substack.com/p/eu-parliament-mandatory-chip-implants

Sorry, but I don't have enough time to look at other countries, there is enough going on here in Australia.



Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Siekmanski on February 13, 2023, 01:16:31 PM
 :biggrin:

> "Sorry, but I don't have enough time to look at other countries, there is enough going on here in Australia."

Yeah, I heard about the killing flies in Australia.

could be this...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoyoByYWcAMM6Me?format=png&name=small)

EDIT: Hi Shintaro, now I see we had the same idea.  :thumbsup:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Foyo9RtWIAQh2UT?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FozDk9paUAAP_qY?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 13, 2023, 02:08:49 PM
The penchant of governments trying to enforce methods of indentification on a population has been happening for a long time. It tends to be a matter of convenience (to government) as to which method they choose to use. ID cards, fingerprints, implanted chips or DNA evidence and all for the same reason, more control.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: Shintaro on February 13, 2023, 02:48:54 PM
The penchant of governments trying to enforce methods of indentification on a population has been happening for a long time. It tends to be a matter of convenience (to government) as to which method they choose to use. ID cards, fingerprints, implanted chips or DNA evidence and all for the same reason, more control.
The grubberment have always had wet dreams about control, remember Hawke tried it with the Australia card.
Hutch, Riccardo Bosi, and a couple of others are going to run as independent candidates for the NSW Upper House. If Bosi gets in that will put the "cat among the pigeons".
I'm obviously not in NSW, so I can't vote for him.
But I would strongly suggest anyone in NSW Australia to vote for him.
Also when you go to cast your vote, use a pen NOT pencil.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 13, 2023, 02:53:12 PM
We are at least blessed that we don't have the American electronic vote counting machines where the operator can set who gets the votes. We have the Australian Electoral Commission that does the counts at each polling booth under the watchful eye of scrutineers from all parties. Been there and done that.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 13, 2023, 07:39:26 PM
How lucky we are that you finally found the evidence, Hutch :thumbsup:

Quote
Trump campaign paid researchers to prove 2020 fraud but kept findings secret (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/11/trump-campaign-report-electoral-fraud/)
An outside firm’s work was never released publicly after researchers uncovered no evidence that the election had been rigged for Joe Biden

By Josh Dawsey
February 11, 2023

Former president Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign commissioned an outside research firm in a bid to prove electoral-fraud claims but never released the findings because the firm disputed many of his theories and could not offer any proof that he was the rightful winner of the election, according to four people familiar with the matter.

The campaign paid researchers from Berkeley Research Group, the people said, to study 2020 election results in six states, looking for fraud and irregularities to highlight in public and in the courts. Among the areas examined were voter machine malfunctions, instances of dead people voting and any evidence that could help Trump show he won, the people said. None of the findings were presented to the public or in court.

About a dozen people at the firm worked on the report, including econometricians, who use statistics to model and predict outcomes, the people said. The work was carried out in the final weeks of 2020, before the Jan. 6 riot of Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol.
“They looked at everything: change of addresses, illegal immigrants, ballot harvesting, people voting twice, machines being tampered with, ballots that were sent to vacant addresses that were returned and voted,” said a person familiar with the work
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: BugCatcher on February 14, 2023, 07:04:29 AM
How come its always Mr. Sasquatch? Never Mrs. Sasquatch or little baby Sasquatch!
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 14, 2023, 07:11:10 AM
jj,

You are a braver man than I am by trusting ANY information coming out of the US on the validity of their voting system. We are fortunate that the Australian Electoral Commission is scrutinised by all parties during the count at each polling booth and the full analysis of each polling booth is available on their web site once the counts are finalised.

Due to the complexity of the system for the Senate, the results take a lot longer, especially as no party has had an absolute majority in the Senate for a long time.

You are fortunate that you have a new government with Giorgia Meloni as the president. She may dig Italy out of the hole that the EU has dumped it in.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 14, 2023, 01:57:55 PM
You are fortunate that you have a new government with Giorgia Meloni as the president. She may dig Italy out of the hole that the EU has dumped it in.

Former UK PM John Major speaking at the Westminster Committee, a few days ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFIllQwpm8)
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 14, 2023, 03:56:13 PM
I may differ from Major, the EU "garden" that has weeds and is starting to look like a desert. The problem with the UK is the length of conservative government it has had. We are blessed in that we got rid of a bad conservative government but they did immense damage for the years that they were there, much higher debt than needed and trashed much of the economy, tried to sell Australia's arse to the Chinese (Darwin port) and left manufacturing in a shambles.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 14, 2023, 08:54:25 PM
we got rid of a bad conservative government

So you are finally going back to your communist roots, Hutch - congrats :thup:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: TimoVJL on February 14, 2023, 09:08:23 PM
Still awaiting confirmation.
That Kaliningrad's FSB story is as plausible too.
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 14, 2023, 10:34:03 PM
 :biggrin:

jj,

> So you are finally going back to your communist roots, Hutch - congrats

We can tell you are from the EU, the great WOKE scam reeks of the old style of der Fuhrer, if it ain't National Socialist, its Communist.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 14, 2023, 11:27:40 PM
Hutch,

Too bad Chapman Street is a bit far from Rome or I would have stopped by with a case of beer to discuss this (I prefer red wine but I do make compromises for old friends).

There is an old saying: you can't become a good capitalist if you haven't been a communist at young age. When I was a teen, I was the only capitalist at my school...
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: hutch-- on February 16, 2023, 09:25:00 AM
I used a funny compromise, working in the engineering trade said I was a trade unionist (Amalgamated Metal Workers Union) but later became a lasseiz faire capitalist running my own business which satisfied both left and right politics, worker control of industry for the old left and independent business owner for the old right.

The only thing I am against is exploitation of other people, you can work long enough to wear yourself out but you don't do it to anyone else. 14 to 16 hour days was common and it made you super fit (if you ate properly). I dislike corporations and don't trust governments, much more respect for the butchers, bakers and candlestick makers of lasseiz faire capitalism.

If you ever make over this way, I will buy you a bottle (or 2) or red wine, I will drink the beer and you can drink the "plonk".  :tongue:
Title: Re: Confirmed: The Americans Destroyed Nordstream
Post by: jj2007 on February 16, 2023, 09:28:57 AM
If you ever make over this way, I will buy you a bottle (or 2) or red wine, I will drink the beer and you can drink the "plonk".  :tongue:

That's a nice offer, I'll reflect on it. Could be fun :thumbsup: