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Title: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Raistlin on March 28, 2020, 03:05:49 AM
Guys & Gals, without being too soppy...re: emotional
PLEASE, PLEASE be safe at this time. Stay home and
self quarantine/isolate if you can afford it. Reasons:
1) We need assembly language programmers = the world has too few
2) My heart would absolutely break to loose even one of you, friends &
anoyances or even self proclaimed frien-emies 
3) You could use the time to fix up that code you've been
putting off for weeks/months/years.😊
If I can help you in any way to do above.. please PM me
Lots of luck and health to you
Raistlin
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: HSE on March 28, 2020, 03:12:27 AM
3) You could use the time to fix up that code you've been
putting off for weeks/months/years.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: daydreamer on March 28, 2020, 05:56:11 AM
Great to see you Rudi :thumbsup:
I also thought fix few bugs and post unfinished projects before I maybe die of something, or worse get illness or accident that stops my ability to code
I have posted unfinished game so far,but it maybe ended up more kinda Ladies kind of quiz?
it would be good to have Ladies test it

Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Raistlin on March 28, 2020, 06:41:34 AM
Eish daydreamer. You have no idea how much
your post frustrates and delights me. Draakie
says "Hi plus LOL!" = we need to get you back
to SA after all this bleakness. I promise an oxtail
potjie and as much alcohol as you can stomach.😊
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: daydreamer on March 28, 2020, 06:52:58 AM
Eish daydreamer. You have no idea how much
your post frustrates and delights me. Draakie
says "Hi plus LOL!" = we need to get you back
to SA after all this bleakness. I promise an oxtail
potjie and as much alcohol as you can stomach.😊
say Hi Back from me  :bgrin:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: LiaoMi on March 29, 2020, 06:52:15 AM
Guys & Gals, without being too soppy...re: emotional
PLEASE, PLEASE be safe at this time. Stay home and
self quarantine/isolate if you can afford it. Reasons:
1) We need assembly language programmers = the world has too few
2) My heart would absolutely break to loose even one of you, friends &
anoyances or even self proclaimed frien-emies 
3) You could use the time to fix up that code you've been
putting off for weeks/months/years.😊
If I can help you in any way to do above.. please PM me
Lots of luck and health to you
Raistlin

Hi Raistlin,

thank you for caring! I had ordered a very interesting second-hand book, entitled - Essential Jni: Java Native Interface by Rob Gordon, now I can read something new  :thup: I don’t want to go out  :eusa_boohoo: I hope all other forum participants also have reserves for this time.

(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387740303l/1933202.jpg)
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: HSE on March 29, 2020, 08:16:38 AM
 :biggrin: 

I have time for Fearless ideas:
http://masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=5686.msg74063#msg74063

(https://www.sqlite.org/images/sqlite370_banner.gif)  https://www.sqlite.org

Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: daydreamer on March 29, 2020, 09:11:28 PM
Guys & Gals, without being too soppy...re: emotional
PLEASE, PLEASE be safe at this time. Stay home and
self quarantine/isolate if you can afford it. Reasons:
1) We need assembly language programmers = the world has too few
2) My heart would absolutely break to loose even one of you, friends &
anoyances or even self proclaimed frien-emies 
3) You could use the time to fix up that code you've been
putting off for weeks/months/years.😊
If I can help you in any way to do above.. please PM me
Lots of luck and health to you
Raistlin

Hi Raistlin,

thank you for caring! I had ordered a very interesting second-hand book, entitled - Essential Jni: Java Native Interface by Rob Gordon, now I can read something new  :thup: I don’t want to go out  :eusa_boohoo: I hope all other forum participants also have reserves for this time.

(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387740303l/1933202.jpg)
I only gone so far to try unoptimized code,moved to C++ about twice the speed
but havent tried the potential in fastest asm code hidden behind a Java app
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: LiaoMi on March 29, 2020, 10:03:36 PM
:biggrin: 

I have time for Fearless ideas:
http://masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=5686.msg74063#msg74063

(https://www.sqlite.org/images/sqlite370_banner.gif)  https://www.sqlite.org

Hi HSE,

a couple of projects from the past  :icon_idea:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: LiaoMi on March 29, 2020, 10:09:40 PM
Guys & Gals, without being too soppy...re: emotional
PLEASE, PLEASE be safe at this time. Stay home and
self quarantine/isolate if you can afford it. Reasons:
1) We need assembly language programmers = the world has too few
2) My heart would absolutely break to loose even one of you, friends &
anoyances or even self proclaimed frien-emies 
3) You could use the time to fix up that code you've been
putting off for weeks/months/years.😊
If I can help you in any way to do above.. please PM me
Lots of luck and health to you
Raistlin

Hi Raistlin,

thank you for caring! I had ordered a very interesting second-hand book, entitled - Essential Jni: Java Native Interface by Rob Gordon, now I can read something new  :thup: I don’t want to go out  :eusa_boohoo: I hope all other forum participants also have reserves for this time.

(https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387740303l/1933202.jpg)
I only gone so far to try unoptimized code,moved to C++ about twice the speed
but havent tried the potential in fastest asm code hidden behind a Java app

Hi daydreamer,

Integrating Visual C++, Java and Assembly - https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/3350/Integrating-Visual-C-Java-and-Assembly (https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/3350/Integrating-Visual-C-Java-and-Assembly)
JDK 15 Early-Access Builds -
Linux / x64   tar.gz (sha256)   197964190 - https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz (https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz)
macOS / x64   tar.gz (sha256)   192751123 - https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_osx-x64_bin.tar.gz (https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_osx-x64_bin.tar.gz)
Windows / x64   zip (sha256)   198146796 - https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_windows-x64_bin.zip (https://download.java.net/java/early_access/jdk15/16/GPL/openjdk-15-ea+16_windows-x64_bin.zip)
Alpine Linux / x64   tar.gz (sha256)   199132199 - https://download.java.net/java/early_access/alpine/10/binaries/openjdk-15-ea+10_linux-x64-musl_bin.tar.gz (https://download.java.net/java/early_access/alpine/10/binaries/openjdk-15-ea+10_linux-x64-musl_bin.tar.gz)

Invoking Assembly Language Programs from Java - https://web.archive.org/web/20080330002620/http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/10/19/invoking-assembly-language-from-java.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20080330002620/http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/10/19/invoking-assembly-language-from-java.html)
Launch Java Applications from Assembly Language Programs - https://web.archive.org/web/20071011014140/http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2007/10/04/launch-java-applications-from-assembly-language-programs.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20071011014140/http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2007/10/04/launch-java-applications-from-assembly-language-programs.html)

Exception handling in JNI - https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/17558/Exception-handling-in-JNI (https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/17558/Exception-handling-in-JNI)
Sample JNI Application - https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/4172/Sample-JNI-Application (https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/4172/Sample-JNI-Application)

Java Language and Virtual Machine Specifications - https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/ (https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/)

This programming area is very large and very interesting and the code is quite portable!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: daydreamer on March 29, 2020, 10:30:20 PM
thanks LiaoMi :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: LiaoMi on March 29, 2020, 10:33:59 PM
thanks LiaoMi :thumbsup:

With pleasure  :tongue: Available freely - The Java™ Native. Interface. Programmer's Guide and Specification Sheng Liang - https://www.fer.unizg.hr/_download/repository/jni.pdf (https://www.fer.unizg.hr/_download/repository/jni.pdf)
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: HSE on March 30, 2020, 03:18:36 AM
a couple of projects from the past  :icon_idea:
Thanks very much!
Planets example really interesting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: morgot on April 16, 2020, 10:27:39 AM
I think, that covid is a fake.
such as software "fake av".. this is only influenza, no more.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on April 16, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
The medical data says its a highly contageous virus and this is born out by the infection rate, first in China, later in Europe and now the US that has the most cases. What is a pain is crappy media outlets driving the scaremongering to rediculous levels. In OZ where I live the lock down was done fast enough to limit the infection rate so our local media keep emphasising the international tally to keep up the scare tactics.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on April 16, 2020, 01:02:35 PM
I think, that covid is a fake.
such as software "fake av".. this is only influenza, no more.

Watch the video: https://www.ilmessaggero.it/italia/coronavirus_bergamo_bare_chiesa_video-5112930.html
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: TimoVJL on April 17, 2020, 03:23:31 AM
A song for a TrumPutin follower is the Chris Rea's song Road to hell :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 18, 2020, 01:00:22 AM
Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on April 18, 2020, 01:15:25 AM
Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?  :biggrin:

On the contrary, you could win a prize for the most intelligent contribution to the coronavirus crisis :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: HSE on April 18, 2020, 01:19:08 AM
Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?  :biggrin:

Corruption work fine when you can't see what is going on. But if people die, some politicians' head could be cut. They have enough money, they can wait .
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on April 18, 2020, 01:43:06 AM
Something that makes me laugh is the criticism of how China dealt with the early infections. While they built hospitals in Wuhan in days, locked the whole province down and beat the main infection very quickly with treatment and isolation, some of the US admin are trying to pass the buck to the Chinese for their own rediculous health system that has allowed the infection to spread in the US making it the leading location for the spread. We have a couple of ass kissing politicians who are trying the same nonsense here, mainly right wing loonies who put politics before health.

We are fortunate here in OZ that our prime minister got off his arse fast enough after the bush fire fiasco and put enough measures in place to stop a run away epidemic but I am wary of the trial run for a police state. I fully support the isolation and distancing measures but the state governments have gone off the deep end with clumsy and heavy handed enforcement. An old lady sitting on a park bench with a mask on was fined $1000.00 AUD when she was easily at a safe distance from other people.

> Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?

Greta who ? Disease and fear mongering works better than pie in the sky bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on April 18, 2020, 01:54:43 AM
Something that makes me laugh is the criticism of how China dealt with the early infections. While they built hospitals in Wuhan in days, locked the whole province down and beat the main infection very quickly with treatment and isolation, some of the US admin are trying to pass the buck to the Chinese for their own rediculous health system that has allowed the infection to spread in the US making it the leading location for the spread.

It's a little bit more complex - have a look at the second last column.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 18, 2020, 01:55:42 AM
Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?  :biggrin:

On the contrary, you could win a prize for the most intelligent contribution to the coronavirus crisis :thumbsup:

I'm already involved in scientific research.
Covid-19 only infects males and females.
My study is to find out why all the other 89 genders aren't getting it.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 18, 2020, 02:19:36 AM
Greta who ? Disease and fear mongering works better than pie in the sky bullsh*t.

Corona politics in a nutshell, Instigates CNN Meltdown | Breakdown
Especially the part after 5:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkvY2R4qb4

WHO's in FEAR now!
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 18, 2020, 02:45:50 AM
 :biggrin:

https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/

Heavily under attack, you have to login now because they couldn't keep up removing comments.  :biggrin:

Here's a capture of a lot of the comments:
https://www.thegrapevine.co.ug/world-attacks-bill-gates-want-him-to-face-crimes-against-humanity-blame-him-for-coronavirus-pandemic-we-wont-consent-to-your-depopulation-agenda-and-we-wont-allow-you-vaccines/

Is this what the bible means with: GATES OF HELL?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on April 18, 2020, 04:30:15 AM
I am no great fan of Bill Gates but the comments I can read look like loonie tune WOKE bullsh*t. Trial by #twitterati is not one of the things I support and if Gates can fund a vaccine that actually works, it may save a lot of lives. Now as far as Greta, now that the limelight has passed her by, lets hope she gets an education, gets laid, married and lives happily ever after and this is after she was used and abused by the WOKE mongers.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 18, 2020, 04:44:03 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on April 18, 2020, 04:57:48 AM
> Is there a tax I can pay to stop Covid-19, or does that only work for climate change?
 :biggrin: Don't worry, you'll pay for it, or maybe the people of the north will escape, but here in the south I'm afraid not.

> Corruption work fine when you can't see what is going on. But if people die, some politicians' head could be cut. They have enough money, they can wait .
Yes, here, the great concern of the government is to hide the images of the dead, morgues, statistical data, etc. It does not have the money to buy medical supplies, but it has already paid 15 million euros to the mainstream media to make sure of the news. And has created a Ministry of Truth that pursues everything contrary to the official version, labeling it as "hoax". They are associations like "maldito bulo" and "neutral". It has abandoned all attempts to control the disease, so it bets on controlling the "truth".

> An old lady sitting on a park bench with a mask on was fined $1000.00 AUD
Maybe the amount is disproportionate, but if we start making exceptions, this gets out of control. Here a woman strips naked and climbs into a police car to protest the confinement (https://twitter.com/i/status/1249416819489767427). I say that she could have done the same dressed, but it is the custom lately, undress and then find a reason for it  :greensml:.


Some regions have already said that they have twice as many cases because they did not count the dead in nursing homes, but the government refuses to officially count them (https://okdiario.com/espana/epidemia-deja-ya-22-055-muertos-espana-sumar-585-ultimas-24-horas-5471683), so I think we are well above the 18,255 dead.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on April 18, 2020, 05:05:32 AM
We get the opposite here, our media does any form of scaremongering it can, as the number have dropped off here in OZ, the media keep up the fear mongering with reports from overseas.

RE : Jumping into a police car naked, she must have been ugly as most pigs would be more than happy to have a good looker jump into their police car.  :tongue:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on April 18, 2020, 05:20:56 AM
No, actually I'd say not bad (https://www.elcaso.net/fotos/14/Sedesnudasobrecochepolicial_1.jpg). She will become famous and earn a living on heart programs.

Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on April 18, 2020, 05:47:23 AM
Nah, she is probably past the age of doing knickerless photography.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: TimoVJL on April 19, 2020, 09:21:59 AM
Who still think, that  USA is a country, that have a eligible heathcare or sain president?
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on April 19, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
Who still think, that  USA is a country, that have a eligible heathcare or sain president?

Trumpies perhaps?  :bgrin:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 19, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
 :cool:

(https://qanon.pub/data/media/38dfc5fe24d2a8cdfef6942ba4231ad160e306c1df7609366074c720aa8d3ab1.jpg)
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on April 19, 2020, 06:53:31 PM
Useless post  :thumbsup: may be removed ...
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on April 19, 2020, 09:42:15 PM
Who still think, that  USA is a country, that have a eligible heathcare or sain president?

Who still think, that the US has honest unbiased journalism?

 :biggrin:

CNN No excuse for Trump's pandemic response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByPa2iH_2vg

And now some fact checking, if you're still interested...  :badgrin:

CNN Deceptively Blames Virus Outbreak On Trump, Not China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWsqOEjlQ4

Who had the guts to watch the entire video?  :skrewy:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 13, 2020, 08:38:52 AM
An angel or pure evil?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_U1Zj0VQac
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Caché GB on May 16, 2020, 09:32:13 PM
International Anthem for 2020

I Wear My Face Mask in the Car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DDXG-dHugc
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 17, 2020, 12:28:10 AM
The left-wing climate science expert, promoted to the world's leading Covid-19 science expert.

https://youtu.be/YRXfACYbyHU
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on May 17, 2020, 02:20:53 AM
The pandemic has been managed fatal, and it is intended to do as bad or worse the economic one. Some analysts, such as Daniel Estulin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Estulin), say that this crisis is a consequence, not of a change in the economic cycle, but of the exhaustion of the current economic model. I may agree more or less. What I think is that it seems that we want to burn huge amounts of resources in trying to maintain the fiction of an economic status that was already decrepit before the covid. Which will involve more debt and more pain to get out of it. We work on short-termism.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on May 17, 2020, 07:53:13 PM
The propaganda of this government is very good and it tried to socialize its mismanagement: we all applaud the health workers on the balconies at 20:00 every day. Who can refuse that? All docilely applaud ... the government at 20:00.

The mass media bought with government subsidies, state anti-hoax campaigns exercising censorship in the media that eludes them.

This is already beginning to change.

An opposition politician has made Orwellian-style posters of the Prime Minister and has distributed them in the streets. Very interesting and fun. The signs say:
- We watch you to protect you. Trust your government.
- A good citizen obeys. Trust your government.
- Trust your government. It is not censorship, it is protection.

https://youtu.be/J-VdmT9vyfw
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on May 17, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
I am always impressed by your brilliant analyses. I'd like to join the discussion but I must do some coding. Have fun :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 17, 2020, 11:28:13 PM
Think for yourself.
Trust yourself.
Knowledge is power.

San Diego County supervisor says six of 194 confirmed deaths are 'pure, solely coronavirus' deaths.
That's six out of 3.3 million people.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/san-diego-county-supervisor-says-six-of-194-confirmed-deaths-are-pure-solely-coronavirus-deaths
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 17, 2020, 11:44:32 PM
Fear.
Division.
Dependency.
Control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igx86PoU7v8&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=oBh77e5ntYt0vwSL%3A6

https://mashable.com/video/futuristic-face-shield-upgrade/
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: hutch-- on May 17, 2020, 11:48:16 PM
I am always wary of all of the western countries jumping headlong into massive debt. While the corona virus is best avoided like anything else going around, it appears to be all too convenient to usher in a police state while going broke and becoming dependent on international money to bail the country out.

After Greta flopped, this seems to be the next try, debt bondage.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: jj2007 on May 17, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
I am always wary of all of the western countries jumping headlong into massive debt. While the corona virus is best avoided like anything else going around, it appears to be all too convenient to usher in a police state while going broke and becoming dependent on international money to bail the country out.

Nice to see that we can agree on something ;-)
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 17, 2020, 11:59:47 PM
I am always wary of all of the western countries jumping headlong into massive debt. While the corona virus is best avoided like anything else going around, it appears to be all too convenient to usher in a police state while going broke and becoming dependent on international money to bail the country out.

After Greta flopped, this seems to be the next try, debt bondage.

Exactly, after Climate Gate failed , it's now Bill Gates turn. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igx86PoU7v8&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=oBh77e5ntYt0vwSL%3A6
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: nidud on May 18, 2020, 03:20:22 AM
Think there some details missing regards to the governments actions here. If you look at the start of all of this you will see governments didn't do anything before the general public demanded action.

In Germany the spread of the virus peeked, vent over the top and started to fall before the government did anything at all. Same up here where tourists was poring in from China and Italy while the public demanded this to be stop, but nothing happened before Italy went into look down themselves. There's a film from a journalist in the US who went to one of the major airports outside NY long before the government put any restrictions on travel and it was more or less completely empty. She had to walk around ten minutes before she saw any passengers here and there and when asking the people at the ticket counter the only calls they get was cancellations.

Well, this is the stuff that fills the entertainment industry with all these apocalyptic movies about vampires and zombies who goes around infecting people, so it's a genetic (and healthy) fear from the past when these things happened more frequently. You find a common guide for this on most religious and historic scriptures that says that if you travel stay there, else stay in your home till it's over.

The zombies of today are those who try to downplay the risks associated with the virus. You die with the virus and not of the virus is a common meme among those. The flip side: It wasn't the bullet that killed you but the underlying conditions, so you die with a slug in your head not of it. So this is the hard reality of situations like this. When the government issue a look down the military will be mobilized to enforce it if the population don't comply with the rules.

As for the economy the countries with the least zombified politicians will be the winners, like NZ, given they will be able to open up first. The sloppy ones will, in addition to the mess they created for themselves, also be punished by others. As an example Greece now opens up and welcomes tourists from Denmark and Norway but not Sweden.

So most things related to this is based on trust. A general feeling may be more important than hard facts when it comes down to it, so people wont act/travel if it doesn't feel safe. The job of the government is then (for the sake of the economy) to make people feel safe.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on May 18, 2020, 04:23:20 AM
That seems like a somewhat simplistic description. Not all countries closed so late, not all planned the same, not all were so bad before the covid. In addition to that, one might wonder why governments refused to close borders in the face of alarm: it was already in Italy, we are not talking about China. The economic situation to face such a problem is not trivial, one might wonder why it was so bad, some time ago I thought of the ignorance of certain politicians / sector, for some time I think it is something worse. Even with that, we continue to insist on increasing debt. On the other hand, the obscurantism of governments, malpractice, etc. result in us knowing less about the virus and therefore it is more difficult to combat.

Many things have been done wrong, yes. One may wonder why.
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 18, 2020, 06:42:47 AM
What I have seen in the media and the newspapers was the same story in the whole world.
a) Governments downplayed the thread of Covid-19 in the beginning.
   Refused to get enough protection gear, complaining that they couldn't get the good stuff.
   In the meantime private persons could get the good stuff with ease????
b) When it was too late ( intentional?? ), they used the situation to play out the people against each other. (FEAR)
   WHO is ruling the world at this time with their misleading models and instructions.
   Nobody is allowed to question the WHO and the mistakes made by this corrupt organization.
c) All misconduct can not be discussed and evidence is removed from the alternative media.
   Government controlled MEDIA is a 1-way Corona discussion.
   Orchestrated by government virologists etc.
   Not mentioning the juggling with the death rate numbers.
   Not mentioning the good results of treatment with hydroxychloroquine.
   They want you to stay in Lockdown untill THEY have a vaccination for you.
   Is there no other NEWS? (China, Deep State, Obamagate etc....)
d) This is a great world-wide operation to see how far they could go to control the peoples.

   Stay at home, while we destroy the economy and steal your freedom and money.

Fear.
Division.
Dependency.
Control.   

It all seems to be orchestrated to control us the people.

Remember this:

'Quarantine' is when you restrict the movement of sick people.
'Tyranny' is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

The truth is right in front of you.
It always has been.

Unless you're in a dormant state, you can see it, you can hear it, you can feel it.
Or you deny it and go on with your phantasmagorical life........
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: caballero on May 20, 2020, 04:46:47 AM
What moments of glory. Please don't laugh :greensml:. Some of the largest brains in Spain have applied trigonometry to the explanation of the coronavirus.

1. Carmen Calvo, one of the many vice presidents of the government, affirms that the expansion of the coronavirus is due to the "fact" that New York, Paris, Tehran and Beijing are in a straight line, well, "more or less". Will the UK or Belgium enter on that line?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0m8-_YcZ4I

2. In case this was not enough to explain it. Another vice president, of ecological transition, Teresa Ribera, was asked how it is possible that the pandemic has affected Portugal much less than Spain, taking into account the sharp cuts in public health that they had to undertake recently. The explanation is clear: since it all started in Italy and Portugal is more at the west than Spain ...
https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/4245510/0/vicepresidenta-ribera-asegura-portugal-exito-coronavirus-estan-oeste/

Hmmmmm And what do we do with Greece then?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXEA5AlXkAAESHt?format=png&name=900x900)

Well, in case all this was not enough, nothing happens, the government blames the opposition and that's all. And there they are, giving them hard.

Er, well, bye.  :eusa_pray:
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Siekmanski on May 20, 2020, 09:37:01 PM
This is the letter sent to Dr. Tedros of the World Health Organization. It is self-explanatory!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1262577580718395393/photo/1
Title: Re: Covid-19 alias SARS-COV-2
Post by: Greenhorn on June 03, 2020, 12:47:19 AM
This is a good read from Lorenz Borsche:
Does vitamin D (& C) help with Covid-19? (https://borsche.de/page/vitamind_sars?preferredlang=en)
and
7 cent or lockdown - Graphics and studies on C-19 (https://borsche.de/page/7_cent?preferredlang=en)

Very good findings and efforts by the author (https://borsche.de/page/LL_LB.html).