The MASM Forum

General => The Soap Box => Hardware Corner => Topic started by: hutch-- on July 04, 2020, 01:38:41 PM

Title: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 04, 2020, 01:38:41 PM
Had it up running perfectly for a while last week, turned it on this morning and its stone dead. Fans come on and the power light but it will not boot, the BIOS does not come up and the monitor says no signal. I changed the video card but no change. All I can think of is the old Intel desktop board has given up the ghost. I may be able to use the Core2 9650 as an ear ring are something similar.

I am waiting on a board to arrive from Hong Kong, a socket 2011-3 and bought another Haswell E/EP so when it all turns up I will have a dedicated "grunter" to pass of various forms of processing to but at the moment I will just have to suffer 2 Windows boxes and a Linux storage box.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: Vortex on July 04, 2020, 07:52:26 PM
Hi Hutch,

Sad to hear about the hardware failure. Linux is more tolerant of hardware changes, you have chances to boot the system after the motherboard replacement. Plus, no need to worry about license activation.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 04, 2020, 08:06:13 PM
I had a quick play with an even older board that has 4 gig of DDR2 and got it to work after I changed the CPU to the Core2 Quad 9650 but its a waste of time, I cannot think of a use for a combination that old. Looks like I will have to wait until the new board turns up. The next one will be a Win10 64 box, I already have the OS ready for it.

My NAS box with Linux Mint 19.3 on it has very little loaded into it and its on a later i7 860 and a Gigabyte board so it may be the best bet for having a decent properly set up Linux box.

This one that just died was to perform a specific task which it did well, it has 2 removable disk caddies so I could copy one disk to another without having to open a case and pull the disks out. Something like the best laid plans of men and mice.  :eusa_boohoo:
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 06, 2020, 10:25:39 PM
I was lucky today, I rang some old friends who run a computer shop that I have been dealing with for more than 20 years and asked if they had any old gen 4 motherboards. They had even better, they had a new one that they kept as a spare for any customers who had a faulty board. I already owned an i5 3.2 gig 4 core, 4 thread CPU so that was at no extra cost and I had bought a funny looking 6 pipe air cooler that went on OK,

I swapped the 8 gig of DDR3 from the old board with 16 gig from my other Linux box so it has 16 gig on board, a graphics card I bought on eBay with 2 DVI ports and plugged in one of the disks at random which just happened to be the Linux boot disk so I did not have to install it all again.

No hurry but it would be easy enough to look around for a faster i7 if it needs a bit more grunt but this i5 is already faster than the old 3 gig Core2 so there is no great need.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: K_F on July 07, 2020, 06:21:52 AM
Had similar problems with my mobo of many years.
Told me a 8GB dram module had failed, but I kept the module.
Then it told me the graphics card was dead... mann!! I was crying.
Some where in the freight this mobo died on me as it was dead as a DoDo here.

So on this side I had to find an LGA1150 mobo that could take 32GB DDR3 dram.. eventually got one cheapish and now I'm back with 32GB dram (that ram module was OK)
Still crying about my graphics card.. seems like it's pooked.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 07, 2020, 07:13:06 AM
Something I learnt a long time ago, never use crap power supplies as badly rectified DC can damage expensive components or make some stuff overheat. Years ago I had a power supply go BANG (literally) and while I had a spare to replace it, it whacked the board as well.

My Win7 64 box is very similar to what you are running, 32 gig memory and its PCIe * 16 slot runs a Radeon RX 580 just fine. Lucky I got it from a young guy down the road for $100.00 AUD. If you look around, you can find gamers who have upgraded an already fast video card to an even faster one and then sell their old one for a lot less than a new one.

This much with later motherboards, they use much better capacitors than the old electrolytics which is what kills most old motherboards. This last one that failed did not have big hours on it but it was made in 2008 and age caught up with it.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: daydreamer on July 07, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
I have kept old AMD box,the video card started to draw random crap pixels all over the screen,so I bought new with lots of vram in it,but got problem to find XP driver for it,so windows shows crappy cpu rendering only,without right driver,bitblt/stretchblt and video has no hardware acceleration


Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 07, 2020, 01:59:05 PM
It may be that you cannot get current drivers for XP as it is no longer supported. Depending on the video card and its chipset, you should try the video card vendor to see if they have any old drivers that will work with XP. I thought you were using a later 64 bit OS version with the later machine that you have.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: daydreamer on July 07, 2020, 10:10:06 PM
It may be that you cannot get current drivers for XP as it is no longer supported. Depending on the video card and its chipset, you should try the video card vendor to see if they have any old drivers that will work with XP. I thought you were using a later 64 bit OS version with the later machine that you have.
I have two 64 bit,one win8 dualcore 2ghz+4gig ram, with usual 450g hd, one Win10 faster 2.5ghz (3.1ghz turbo) dualcore with HT 20gb ram and 256gb ssd drive, i use external 2tb too
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 07, 2020, 11:46:34 PM
I still own a 3.8 gig server PIV with XP SP3 on it but its purely to run a scanner and digital microscope, it has all of the drivers for XP but I would not like to try and get anything later.
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: hutch-- on July 08, 2020, 12:27:38 AM
Finished and the can closed. Running an i5 3.2 gig gen 4 processor, 16 gig of DDR3 and all of my old 1tb disks, 1 for the OS and 4 for storage. The DVD read/write sits on the top of the can as I needed the 2 slots for the removable disk caddies. Lucky I had an ancient adapter to get SATA out of the box plus power so I could run something external from the box.

Linux Mint 19.3, seems to run OK, much better interface than older Linux versions and you can do most things from the interface. Console works OK, manages standard command line commands OK. It serves its purpose being able to remove 2 disks so I can copy another pair of disks and all of the installed software runs close enough to the Windows versions, Audacity, PhotoFilmStrip, Inkscape and it runs Google earth OK so apart from Win32/64 development it does most things well.

(http://www.masm32.com/files/Linux_Box.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP my spare Linux box.
Post by: daydreamer on July 08, 2020, 10:04:40 PM
good :thumbsup:
I use DVItoHDMI cable,so I can use HDTV for image editing,postwork pics and make manga