Author Topic: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?  (Read 4853 times)

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #120 on: November 30, 2022, 12:23:57 PM »
Well, I just don't care: Windows 7 is fine for me, don't need to advance anywhere beyond it. Now if Opera drops support for it, I still have this version of their browser which I'll continue to use, so again, don't care. Just so long as they don't "upgrade" to HTML 13 and break all previous versions ... no, they couldn't do that. Even Micro$oft has to jump through hoops to make sure they don't break legacy software that people still use.

One thing I will say about Windows 10: it's a hell of a lot smarter about installing and configuring stuff. Like printers: I plugged in my HP Laserjet 2100M (a 20-year-old unit) into a USB port and it recognized it and installed all the needed stuff. Windows 7 not so much: I actually am using a driver for a different printer (LJ 2200) which works fine (all I need anyhow is the PCL5 support), but the install process was a lot less seamless under 7. Oh, well.

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #121 on: December 01, 2022, 02:29:45 AM »
I bet they (Chrome et al) will just start using brand new stupdi scheme for system dlls like api-ms-win-core-****

eg python went that cruel way and you can't install ver 3.10+ anymore...
https://discuss.python.org/t/windows-7-support-for-python-3-9-or-3-10-without-a-fork/13842

stupid crazy B.S. marketing


2) isn't Opera using chromium engine already many years ...?
or you sitll using Opera 12.x??? (native Opera engine)


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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #122 on: December 01, 2022, 06:38:03 AM »
android versions have funny names,like "kitkat" OS,you could also end up with hardware combined with old Android OS version make apps doesnt work properly
might need to keep Android device hidden from chocolate lovers :tongue:
I suspect intel and AMD have got inspired by these names and used project names like "whiskylake cpu" and "coffeelake cpu"  :greenclp:
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Re: Web browsers
« Reply #123 on: December 10, 2022, 03:31:10 AM »
In regards to web browsers, is anyone running windows 7 with MS Edge web browser? I am currently running Opera browser but as mentioned in this thread it has problems with site certificates. Before I install Edge I would like to hear from anyone that runs Edge on Windows 7. Specifically in regards to site certificates. Any issues? Chrome doesn’t have these issues either, but as with other Google products it is very intrusive and collects a huge amount of user data which I don’t care for and would have to wade through dozens of settings to turn off those things that can be turned off. (Not all can, asfaics)
Of course Edge probably collects user data as well, but I don’t know at this point.

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #124 on: December 10, 2022, 03:48:38 AM »
Hi NoCForMe,
Here is one more reason to consider Win10: W7's RichEdit implementation is buggy.

In regards to web browsers, is anyone running windows 7 with MS Edge web browser?

Yes, meself. I tried FireFox and SlimJet and others, and it turns out Edge is not that bad. Fast and slightly less memory-hungry than Firefox (I have 6GB installed here on my Win7-64 notebook, it cannot hold more) :cool:

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Re: Web browsers
« Reply #125 on: December 11, 2022, 06:49:30 AM »
In regards to web browsers, is anyone running windows 7 with MS Edge web browser?
I am now currently installing Microsoft Edge web browser. After it finishes installing, I'll give it a whirl...
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Re: Web Browsers
« Reply #126 on: December 11, 2022, 06:57:01 AM »

Well, that went over like a lead balloon:
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Unable to connect to the internet. If you use a firewall, please allowlist MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.exe.
Hrrrmphhh! I AM connected to the internet, and not firewalled.   :badgrin:   Damn MS!
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Re: Web browsers...
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2022, 07:40:16 AM »
Okay, I located a standalone installer for MS Edge. And here I am. I will use this over the next few days to see if it is a good enough replacement for Opera. (On Windows 7 64 bit)


One caveat worth mentioning...
Each time I open Edge, I am greeted with a message bar with:
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To get future Microsoft Edge updates, you'll need Windows 10 or later.

I want to reply with "Do you promise?"  :tongue:  For now this (Edge) looks okay... No certificate issues as with Opera, and all the sites I checked display properly as well (unlike with Opera). Now I have to wade through the settings to see what else needs to be turned off. I have turned off a few things already.

A few minutes later…
Hold the phone... Well, going to Mirosofts own website for Edge extensions a security warning popped up and page not displayed properly.  :undecided:  Dammit!
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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2022, 08:40:43 AM »
Strange, no such problems here, Windows 7-64, too :cool:

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #129 on: December 11, 2022, 10:08:14 AM »
Strange, no such problems here, Windows 7-64, too :cool:
Odd that.  :undecided:  At any rate, not a show stopper. Always another way. Now lemme teleport back to 2006, before all this newfangled MS crap.  :biggrin:
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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #130 on: December 11, 2022, 10:17:29 AM »
 :biggrin:

Returning back to the middle ages when the black death ravaged Europe, pilgrims took to self flagellation to repent of their sins so as to spare themselves from the effects of the black death. It didn't work and they died like the rest but HAY, it really made them feel bad but released the guilt of their sins.  :tongue:

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Reversion back to Win7 64 is like the pilgrims of old, repenting of their sins.

Tsk tsk, OH it hurts, do it again !  :rofl: :skrewy: :tongue:

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Re: Web browsers
« Reply #131 on: December 11, 2022, 03:16:23 PM »
I am now currently installing Microsoft Edge web browser. After it finishes installing, I'll give it a whirl...
Okay, enough of that. I would rather keep using Opera as I am used to it. Even the forementioned issues. I can live with it.

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #132 on: December 11, 2022, 03:20:34 PM »
Reversion back to Win7 64 is like ...

Actually, you are incorrect. I actually upgraded from Windows 7 32 bit to Windows 7 64 bit.  :tongue:
I got tired of reinstalling 64 bit just to take a quick look at others' 64 bit projects even though that (reinstall OS) only takes 10 minutes or less. (I don't want to dual boot)

I only keep Windows 10 64 bit around for when I absolutely (begrudgingly) need it.  :badgrin:
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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #133 on: December 11, 2022, 07:49:47 PM »
What Opera ver are you using?
https://get.opera.com/pub/opera/
there are dozens of editions wow!
what was a time
does anyone remmeber that day when Opera browser was a paid one? :)

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Re: Going back to Windows 7 from 10: how?
« Reply #134 on: December 11, 2022, 09:30:26 PM »
Vivaldi is lighter chrome version and it works in Windows 7.

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