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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2022, 11:05:44 AM »
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Russian's goal is to protect people in Ukraine
Putin said that and want to war end.
Read a full story and think, and now use a your brains.
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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2022, 12:49:37 PM »
Hi Timo,

I guess the old hatreds really do die hard. If you have ever seen the footage of the Einsatzgruppen and what they did in Russia, you would not understand why they have not flattened the Baltic states because in some parts of Russia, they have ancient hatreds as well. The Mongols, various wars with the Teutonic knights, later wars with Sweden, the invasion of Russia just after the 1917 revolution by western governments and the WW2 atrocities that people from the Baltic states were part of.

It would work for the Baltic states if they got along with Russia, energy, trade, security, resource access and Russian tourists spending money in those countries. Old hatreds are bad business and they go nowhere.

Now instead of Europe freezing its arse off this winter, they could have cheap energy, resource access, tourists and the associated inflow of tourist money, its only WEF donkeys in government are blocking this as they kiss the arse of the US military/industrial complex shaping US foreign policy.
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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2022, 01:55:09 PM »
Steve,
i don't hate russian women, they are friendly for me.
I think you agree with me, in russia are many good looking old women and if you need one, just send PM and i try to find blonde with big boobs :biggrin:
One oligarg daughter told me, that his dad wanted her to find foreign man from europe :biggrin:
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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2022, 03:01:53 PM »
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A mate of mine,a Greek guy who lived just down the road from me had a Russian girlfriend and while she was a good looking blonde, she was also NUTZ and expected him to be her servant, benefactor and doormat and fortunately for Nick (the Greek guy) it did not last. She used to turn up at his place and blow her stack in the street so everyone heard her so Nick used to go missing just to avoid her.

I have met others who were much nicer, some with their boyfriends on holidays here or even immigration. If you were into mail order brides in OZ, they are mainly from the Philippines and strangely enough, I have seen very happy couples with kids so its not the same old scam for guys who could not find a match here.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2023, 09:54:36 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU

What I see in this video is that pilots from different countries met in the air, greeted each other with a professional attitude, and parted afterwards.

All the rest is bulls*tty interpretation and dramatic music to generate some clicks.
The fact remains that Russia has always had better technology than the USA... And this is even before we get to the SU-57.
The F35 is a perfect example of US military industrial imcompetence/corruption.. while not noticable when used against '3rd world' militaries, but very noticable when coming up against a foe of equal capabilities.
Even 3rd world countries have beaten the hell out of US forces, takes longer but they do do it in the end... Vietnam springs to mind,amongst many others.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2023, 02:22:29 PM »
The best air superiority fighter the US has is the latest version of the F15, its fast, carries a load of ordinance, has a lower radar profile than the older ones and is a competitor to most others around but then, it was designed in the 1970s. The F35 is a lemon, its slow, buggy, unreliable and rediculously expensive.

A pork barrelling blunder fuelled by the military/industrial complex to fleece US taxpayers of massive sums of money, nearly as bad as funding Zelensky to the tune of many billions. Continuous wars may suit the profits of the aforementions military/industrial complex but it keeps weakening the US at a time when its competitors are getting stronger. Maybe the war mongers in the US government are closet Kommie Pinkoes sucking up to the respective politburos of China and Russia.
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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2023, 10:52:13 PM »
Hutch problem with f15 it was best air fighter, but like you bend metal over and over again sooner or later it will break,that's what happened to f15,after many years of use lots of high g turns, f15 breaks apart
Nothing last forever
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Some Russian girls want to visit their family back in Russia, but end up stuck in new country with men who don't care about go visit Russia again after getting married
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Re: Air power ?
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2023, 08:10:07 PM »
Magnus,

All large militaries have hour limits on aircrafts, the current later F15s are recent manufactured so they don't have that problem. I gather that some of the older ones get updated.
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2023, 10:15:35 PM »
The underlying story on that F35 video, was that this billion dollar aircraft was supposed to have a 'standoff'/detection capability of some 200km.
Then a fairly high signature (35 million dollar) aircraft sneaks up on it, apparently undetected. :toothy:

This coud be just Russian capability promo and in the eye for the US, but there is a similar video taken from a US naval ship in the Black Sea, where some really big ('london bus') signature aircraft fly straight at these ships, and the US navy cannot get a lockon to the aircraft. Coincidences are mounting up.

The Russians always underplay their capabiltities, with their cards close to their chest, whereas the US tends to brag too much.
I also take part of my views from looking at the 'weapon' itself.

The F35 looks like a 'disfunctional pig', the Migs and Suhkoi's look like beautiful and mean machines made by Nature itself.
The A10 is a great functional machine and you can see it has punch. It's Russian counterpart doesn't look that scary.
The F15 was great in it's day, but like all aircraft they move past their 'sell by date'.
The F16 today I would say is a flying coffin, completely outclassed.
The Euro fighters and others don't impress me and I say we're just looking at more 'F35' types in a different airframe.
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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2023, 04:04:03 AM »
The type of analysis I have seen is that while western militaries have been beating their chests about trampling over 3rd world armies, there has not been a military confrontation for a 1st world military since ww2 and the difference shows. The assumption that NATO could defend Europe against Russia is not sound as both the US and Europe have downsized their military so the extra money can be poured into corporate profits.

This war in Ukraine is a wake up call to both the US and Europe that they are currently outclassed in military equipment and manpower and while western media has been frothing at the mouth with bullsh*t propaganda, the facts on the ground say otherwise. With some years of lead time, the Russians have ben able to mobilise a large number of recruits and ramp up their military/industrial complex to the extent that all of the predictions about them running out of missiles, tanks and the like are just fantasies.

Unfortunately (for Ukrainian men) it suits the US and Europe to keep the war going as they can both test out some of their hardware and their suppliers can keep raking in the buck$. Modern western wars are not for winning the war, they are for fleecing their own taxpayers for as long as they can to keep up the cash flow.

This is why the F35 is a lemon, it does not matter if they are duds, as long as they keep selling.
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