Author Topic: C/C++ vs Assembler  (Read 50220 times)

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2013, 05:58:31 AM »
Gunther, I have C drive of 685 GB and D drive 931 GB
for my purpose it is more than enough :t
Cod-Father

Gunther

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3585
  • Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2013, 06:54:36 AM »
habran,

Gunther, I have C drive of 685 GB and D drive 931 GB
for my purpose it is more than enough :t

Okay, you can work with the original BIOS. My disk is over 2 TB and I had to deal with EFI. Installing different operating systems isn't pure joy.

But we shouldn't no longer discuss our hardware equipment, because the thread has another goal.

Gunther
« Last Edit: May 09, 2013, 07:56:11 PM by Gunther »
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them.

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2013, 07:01:57 AM »
If I were you I would change it to two or three smaller drivers :bgrin:
Cod-Father

Gunther

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3585
  • Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2013, 07:21:05 AM »
Hi habran,

If I were you I would change it to two or three smaller drivers :bgrin:

good proposal and that is exactly what I've done. So the trouble did start. Here is some source for futher reading.

Gunther
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them.

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2013, 11:26:14 AM »
what trouble? :icon_eek:
I'v read about UEFI and it pisses me of, WTF is tat :icon13:
I don't understand why would we need that crap :dazzled:

your machine is 3.4 gig and it suppose to be lightning fast
you pay big money to get the best thing and than you get some crap :(
that is not tolerable

I stopped baying desktops, I find laptops more suitable for everything
and if I need to go somewhere I can take it with me easy together with my mobile
internet connection

I hate seating at the desk
with the laptop I can enjoy a comfort  of a recliner
I put a board over the chair and the laptop on it and a cup of a long black ;)

 
 
Cod-Father

Gunther

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3585
  • Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2013, 07:55:40 PM »
Hi habran,

what trouble? :icon_eek:
I'v read about UEFI and it pisses me of, WTF is tat :icon13:
I don't understand why would we need that crap :dazzled:

The point is: if you've a machine (no matter if desktop or laptop) with a hard disk over 2.2 TB, you can't manage it with the old master boot record. In that case you need UEFI with GPT. It has advantages; you need no longer logical drives, because every drive is primary. UEFI leaves a dummy MBR at your disk. But there are disadvantages, too. For example, Windows XP or Windows 7 (32 bit) are not EFI aware (very simple: no appropriate drivers). So you can't install these systems, for example, parallel with Windows 8. Moreover, if you would like to run Windows 8 and Linux in parallel, you'll need an EFI aware boot manager. I had to do one week to clear that questions. I've now Windows 7 and Linux installed (both 64 bits) and the 32 bit versions as virtual machines. My boot manager is GRUB 2.

Gunther
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them.

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2013, 08:11:40 PM »
Windows 8 sucks :(
I am happy with Windows 7, 64 bit
If I want to bye new machine I will wait Windows 9 probably  ;)
thanks for clarification Gunther :t
Cod-Father

dedndave

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8827
  • Still using Abacus 2.0
    • DednDave
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2013, 10:21:40 PM »
i did manage to find a GPT driver from Paragon that will work under XP   :P

the question i have is....
when it comes to hard drives, how big is too big ?
personally, i think if you exceed 2 Tb, then you have too many eggs in one basket, anyways - lol
let's face it - when the drive crashes, how much stuff do you want to lose

better to have (3) 1 Tb drives that work and 1 that doesn't
than to have a 4 Tb drive that doesn't

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2013, 10:34:05 PM »
personally, i think if you exceed 2 Tb, then you have too many eggs in one basket, anyways - lol
I agree with you totally :t
Cod-Father

Vortex

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2334
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2013, 03:23:46 AM »
better to have (3) 1 Tb drives that work and 1 that doesn't
than to have a 4 Tb drive that doesn't

I agree with you :t

Gunther

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3585
  • Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2013, 03:54:29 AM »
Hi Erol,

better to have (3) 1 Tb drives that work and 1 that doesn't
than to have a 4 Tb drive that doesn't

I agree with you :t

the point is: the 4 TB hard drive will work with UEFI and GPT. Unfortunately, that's the future because Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard and other big players are the "fans" of that idea.

Gunther
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them.

habran

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1225
    • uasm
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2013, 05:52:49 AM »
*&^%$#@!~ :(
Cod-Father

Vortex

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2334
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2013, 06:02:07 AM »
Hi Gunther,

Dave's approach is very logical. A high capacity hard drive can be a big risk. Splitting the data across multiple drives is more safe.

Gunther

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3585
  • Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2013, 08:20:10 AM »
Hi Erol,

Dave's approach is very logical. A high capacity hard drive can be a big risk. Splitting the data across multiple drives is more safe.

no doubt about it. But will it be possible in the future to buy smaller hard disk. My desktop PC has a 2.2 TB hard disk. I needed it, because I want to learn about the new Ivy Bridge architecture. So, what now?

Gunther
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them.

hutch--

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7538
  • Mnemonic Driven API Grinder
    • The MASM32 SDK
Re: C/C++ vs Assembler
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2013, 09:42:03 AM »
I have had the solution for years, multi-partition machines with 4 hard disks. My now old Core2 quad has 2 x 1 tb drives and 2 x 2 tb drives split into 12 partitions, the first 2 have 259 gig partitions and the last 2 have 500 gig partitions. As a safety margin I keep another XP machine that will read any of the disks from the quad if it ever goes bang and i can also read the disks on one of the old Win2000 machines.

If the i7 64 bit box ever goes bang I am in trouble as they have a different disk format that a 32 bit OS cannot read.
hutch at movsd dot com
http://www.masm32.com    :biggrin:  :skrewy: