Never a True-er word spoken about ZA than this clip

[Gunther]

Hi K_F,

While I agree that there is corruption worldwide, african continent corruption is bad to the extreme, and they can ill afford it.

Are you really sure? I would recommend the following movie.

Gunther

[dedndave]

and another, "The International"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963178/

[Gunther]

Or the following interesting documentation (unfortunately only in German and French, but some of the banksters speak English). Very interesting. They're talking about Billions and Billions (our money), not only 19 millions.

Of course, that 17 million pound palace is also a serious problem. But compared to the banking crisis these are Peanuts. So, let's not go overboard.

Gunther

[K_F]

It all starts small.. and only gets bigger.. if you let it ?
:)

[Gunther]

Hi K_F,

It all starts small.. and only gets bigger.. if you let it ?
:)

yes, that's right. But main things first ist also true. If we're talking about Billions and Millions, it's clear what the main thing is, isn't it?

Gunther

[K_F]

You're digressing..

Squandering small donations (in comparison) that can make make a difference for those living below the bread line. is no better than those who steal billions in large institutions.. They're criminals, one and the same.. and jail is the place for them.. nothing like going back 'home'. 

[Gunther]

Hi K_F,

I aggree with you if you say: Resist the beginnings. On the other hand, if we're looking around the world, for example, US, Western Europe, Australia or elsewhere we've the phenomenon that big parts of the ruling political class are also corrupt and rotten. That's not limited to the African continent and again, it has nothing to do with the color of the skin.

Gunther

[dedndave]

true enough
here in the US, we had a disaster in New Orleans
New Orleans has a few wealthy people (mostly white - some black) and many poor (mostly black)

from the way the US gov't handled the disaster, it may have appeared that they were racially (un)motivated
a few years later, the New England states (northern east coast) had a similar disaster

by reading between the lines, you can see that race has nothing to do with it
they discriminate against poor people
it doesn't matter what color your skin is
but, your balance sheet gets all the attention in the world

[Magnum]

The preacher is being honest.

He said black people have a problem.

And so does everyone else in every nation.

I think he is asking people to do less complaining and help others and be productive.

Just my 5 cents.

Andy

[Gunther]

Andy,

The preacher is being honest.

He said black people have a problem. ...

Only a little footnote: That might be honest or not, but this is no longer the question. The now-discussed question is posed in message #55 ff.

Gunther

[Magnum]

This has absolutely, positively no relevance to the video posted.

Talk about getting off topic. 

Andy

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Next time you feel sorry for an african country and are about to empty your pockets... remember this..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238017/UK-gives-19million-aid-South-Africa--president-spends-17-5million-palace.html

.. it's your money that keeps criminals like these in power.. with no money they have no 'power' to corrupt.
:-)