Higgs particle found

[farrier]

A Higgs boson decides to go to church, and "propagates" to the local Catholic church.

HB is met at the front door by the priest, who says: "I'm sorry we don't let bosons in our church."

HB: "No bosons at all?"

Priest: "NO!"

HB: "Then how do you have Mass?"

[dedndave]

 

i'm sure we can come up with something better than that - lol

[K_F]

HB: "Then how do you have Mass?"

Priest: "You must have Faith..." 

[sinsi]

Priest: "Charming. Top show! Ooh, strange, looks like you've lost something?"

[jj2007]

Priest: "Charming. Top show! Ooh, strange, looks like you've lost something?"

sinsi, surely - the whole zoo?
by the way, churches over here are full of bosoms, but it's not the Higgs type :redface:

[Bill Cravener]

If my understanding of this subject is even close it is believed that strings of vibrating energy (String Theory) group together to form the various particles physicists now believe exist. These tiniest of tiny particles intern group together to form things like protons, neutrons, electrons, ect. They intern form atoms of which all known matter is made of.

Am I even close in my understanding of this subject? If so what the hell is a Higgs Boson in the scheme of things?


Strings the Thing (video)

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Hi Bill,

   Well string theory is still up in the air.  It describes
things with incredibly small strings that vibrate in modes
to create the other particles (quarks, leptons, etc.).  The
theory comes in various incarnations.  10 or 11 dimensions
seem to be in vouge.  But it is an in work kind of thing.
It can explain some things that other theories cannot yet.
But it has not made any testable predictions to confirm it.

   The Higgs boson is an extension of the Standard Model
that is the current foundation of particle theory.  It is a
manifestation of the Higgs field.  And the Higgs field is
invoked to explain why many subatomic particles have
mass.  Movement through space is resisted by the field
and that resistance creates mass.  See if you can see the
PBS Nova series "The Fabric of the Cosmos", episode: What
Is Space?  According to the web site, it came out in November
of 2011, but I saw it broadcast a couple of days ago.

Regards,

Steve N.

[hutch--]

Its easy to tell that most of the contributors to this topic are married, bachelors already know what titz 'n arse is about where most of the married guys have forgotten.  :icon_mrgreen:

[farrier]

by the way, churches over here are full of bosoms, but it's not the Higgs type :redface:

jj2007,

As a lapsed Catholic, I am experiencing extreme guilt: Thinking about the fine ample bosoms of the European women in the Gothic cathedrals of "The Old World"!

I'm OK now, I just got over the guilt.  However, still thinking of the fine ample ...

farrier

[MichaelW]

Movement through space is resisted by the field and that resistance creates mass.

But how could this explain inertia?

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Movement through space is resisted by the field and that resistance creates mass.

But how could this explain inertia?

Hi,

   Good point.  Probably requires some form of relativity?
After all, they have not really defined their "movement" to
my satisfaction.  Even with their pretty graphics.  And it
is certainly above my current knoweldge level.  Aether
revisited?  Let's see, if you are in a Higgs field and that
imparts mass to a particlal, how would it do that without
movement?  The field woud be moving relative to it?
Sounds like the layman's explaination they use is
simplified beyond actual usefulness.  So, how much effort
is required to obtain the equivalent to a Ph.D in physics?

   Probably requires the field energy to be potential rather
than kinetic.  And they do mention something like that at
times.  (That the lowest energy level of the Higgs field is
non-zero.)  (Which renders one of the pretty graphic
depictions on Nova a contradiction, as it shows movement...)
But that seems to just put things in a different coordinate
system and does not provide an intuitive insight (to me
at least).

   If I find a computer that can navigate their revamped web
site (ew), I think I will listen to the segment on the Science
Friday show that discussed the announcement again.  It
seemed to make sense at the time.

Cheers,

Steve N.

[K_F]

.. where most of the married guys have forgotten.  :icon_mrgreen:

No no... I see my 'good pieces' frequently  ;)