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Re: Trump for president.
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2015, 04:46:13 PM »
also a troublemaker, you know
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« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2015, 06:20:25 PM »
Knowing this, I am going to get some popcorn and enjoy the show. At least candidates like Trump make it a fun one  :lol:
It's all fun until someone loses an eye...

The way he conducts his business makes him the perfect President for the modern USA.
Don't forget that the USA is a Republic, not a Democracy. Capitalism all the way! Too bad for the rest of the world :(
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« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2017, 12:59:06 AM »
Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

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« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2017, 10:59:27 AM »
Comments on Trump's son-in-law:

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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2017, 11:24:07 AM »
Icaught that story JJ,he does look a bit frail.

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« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2017, 01:34:03 PM »
> Don't forget that the USA is a Republic, not a Democracy.

Unless the US smartens up its act in terms of its economy and stops wasting taxpayers money on foreign wars, it will soon be a banana republic. Invest in Americans and you will build America, keep trashing Americans and you will see its end. Current predictions from American sources say the economy will collapse by about 2020. Then ordinary Americans will be left with the trillions in debt and no means of paying it.
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« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2017, 01:57:58 PM »
Invest in Americans and you will build America
But a capitalist will invest in those who will give him the most profit. Americans want high salaries. Will they agree to live hand to mouth for a few decades to make America great again?

Robots are likely better candidates for the role of American economy saviors. But then, where will the former employees go and what will they live on? They will have nothing valuable to sell in the market as soon as their hands aren't needed.

It looks like capitalism and market economy are coming to an end.

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« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2017, 02:07:07 PM »
hutch, some truth to that, but it's going to be a very unusual banana republic. World annual banana production is around 35 megatons. Suppose they were all dropped on Sydney from 30,000 ft. That would be the end of Sydney! Now suppose there were a banana republic with 1000 times that many bananas, and delivery systems capable of dropping megatons of them from a great height on any city in the world within 15 minutes. That's the type of banana republic the US will be in a few decades. Unless you really love bananas, it's a disturbing scenario.
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« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2017, 03:05:58 PM »
There was a very old cartoon from an Australian cartoonist who used to produce them for city newspapers and it has the title, "The American Dream". The image was a poverty stricken person ratting a dumpster and holding a drumstick (chicken leg) that has already been eaten and the dream in the mind of the person was a drumstick that had not been eaten. The cartoonist went by the name of Rigby.

Sad to say the poor in the US look very much like this. The US was built by a vast number of hard working Americans over a long period of time but the collection of interests called "The Swamp" which comprise of the military/industrial complex, the parasites of Wall Street, the Pentagon and a number of US security agencies simply don't care about the population and have let the country's infrastructure rot and people go hungry.

It is interesting that "The Swamp" has effectively staged a coup against Trump because he was not willing to play ball on their terms after Hillary lost the unloseable election funded by all of the cockroaches that are sucking the life out of American taxpayers. So much for the constitution when you have a corporate controlled police state that is out of control.
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« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2017, 03:42:21 PM »
There will be no live taxpayers in the future anyway, only robots. The question is whether their owners will agree to feed the population they don't need anymore. Why would they like to feed billions of people who just eat and shit and pollute the environment? Isn't it a waste of precious and limited resources?

Today's huge world population lives on the energy of fossil fuels. It will have to decrease anyway when they end. The energy coming from the Sun is sufficient for several hundreds of millions only.

Which means communism is inevitable, dear comrades. Mankind will be reorganized as a world wide commune. Consumerism will be a crime.

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« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2017, 04:35:34 PM »
Sad to say the poor in the US look very much like this.

The U.S. are the richest country in the World, just ahead of Switzerland!

Slightly modified graph taken from Der Spiegel. For the U.S., there is a staggering difference between average and median net wealth.

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« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2017, 05:26:47 PM »
The issue is,what do we do when we have robots doing all the production. If we are concerned  only with profit vs the future of the species,then we condemn the march of humanity to become a dominate force for the future of mankind. If it is only profit,we are doomed to the ash heap of history.

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« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2017, 09:39:34 PM »
JJ, that's a very revealing graph. Ratio of average / median in US is 6.2! In Europe, it's typically 2 or 3. US has an incredibly unequal wealth distribution, which is the root cause of all its problems. The top 1% own more than 1/3 and control almost everything, leaving the rest of US population virtually powerless.

Up to about 1973 US was in line with Europe, then it started changing. The rich started stealing all the money. Top 1% holdings increase, almost on a straight line, from about 10% to 34%. (It's probably even more; that's what they admit to these days.)

Why? What's so different about the US?

This question is very important to all of you, because you don't want the same thing to happen to your countries. IF you know the cause you can prevent it.

And, what happens next in the US? Again this is important to you, considering US military and economic power. It's already very dangerous to the rest of the world, but Europe still feels safe. That will change in a few decades. So it's vitally important to understand what went wrong.

So - what's your guess? What key difference(s) between US and Europe (and the rest of the world) is responsible for this collapse of US society, starting some time after WWII?
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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2017, 12:35:30 AM »
Still thinks the thirteen warrior concept is the root of all these problems. If you deviate from this logic you end up assigning real power to individuals and thus corrupt the system.

The legal system was design for the people to rule and make judgment on individuals and not the other way around. Laws are ambiguously written for this very reason and is basically just a guidebook for the jury.

As for the man with the funny wig and the wooden hammer at the end of the table: he's just the janitor of the house. When the panel of judges has concluded he's allowed to bang his hammer and announce the verdict of the jury.

This is basically the foundation of whats referred to as western values where societies are ruled by law, by the people for the people and not by commandments dictated from above.

The same apply to politics where the initiative and power to change policies within a political party should come from the grass-root and voted upwards. This means that the candidates shouldn't be allowed to have any opinions about anything.

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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2017, 05:26:54 AM »
@nidud I agree that the jury should judge, and the judge should just sweep up after them. But what's that got to do with the historical fact that US started to go wrong around 1973? I don't recall any change of this nature in the legal system around then. It was screwed up long before. Are you thinking of Miranda v. Arizona, 1966? Or maybe you mean that the political convention system changed so that the candidate became more powerful than the grass roots? But FDR was Emperor way back in the 40's. Seems a flimsy argument. No jury would buy it.
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