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FORTRANS:
Hi,

   Someone gave me a laptop computer that he said was not
working.  And after trying to get it cleaned up a bit (smelled of
cigarettes and had random bits of tape and gunk or crud on it)
I found that the keyboard does not work.  I put a USB keyboard
on it and get to a Windows 7 log in password box.  Out of
communication with the donor and don't have the password.

   First question, when Windows 7 offers to reset the password,
what will happen if I accept?

   Second question, I am familiar with dead and dying computers,
but not so much with reviving such poor beasts.  Is trying to
remove, clean, and reseat the keyboard likely to work?  Or
is that generally a lost cause?

   The external keyboard seems to be inactive until Windows starts
up.  Therefor I cannot seem to access the BIOS setup.

   Is going to someone's shop to have them fix it worth while
or are they going to charge more that it is worth?  On average
at least.  If they are likely to be cheap, I could feed them a half
dozen old computers

Thanks,

Steve N.

hutch--:
Steve,

I doubt that a laptop is worth the price of fixing it and depending on its age there may not be spare parts for it. I would give the "Reset password" option a blast as its the choice between trying to get it to run or throwing it out. Probably once you can get into it the OS will recognise the USB keyboard and then you may be able to access the BIOS.

sinsi:
If you use "reset password" I think Windows 7 will ask you to insert your previously created password recovery disk - catch 22.

Download a password reset utility like http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ either ISO or USB bootable image.
Easiest way is to activate the Administrator account and log on with it - no password by default.

mineiro:
Some notebooks changed the del key to enter bios setup with F2,F10 or Alt+s. Try these. On a sony vaio this differs too, when computer is off we should press 'assist' key, so computer turns on and you can press F2 key to enter bios setup. I was thinking if this assist key was broken, don't have on default keyboards, I probably try to search the scan code of this key and try to emulate with other keys combinations.
I have used the program that sir sinsi said and works ok, only don't work if my memory is good when windows partition or user account have been encrypted, well, it's said on manual I suppose, that program have a linux version to mount windows registry under linux.

FORTRANS:
Hi,


--- Quote from: sinsi on December 27, 2016, 09:34:06 AM ---If you use "reset password" I think Windows 7 will ask you to insert your previously created password recovery disk - catch 22.

--- End quote ---

   Ah, yes, memories of Windows 9x recovery diskettes.  Those
never proved useful either.  Either nothing went wrong, they were
never made in the first place, or were lost.


--- Quote ---Download a password reset utility like http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ either ISO or USB bootable image.
Easiest way is to activate the Administrator account and log on with it - no password by default.

--- End quote ---

   Thanks that looks useful.  Hopefully usable with an extracted disk
on another computer as I can't change the boot order with the
external keyboard.

@hutch:  Thanks.  That is what I would expect.  Too expensive to
be worthwhile.

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@mineiro:  Good that you have used the program sinsi mentioned,
thank you.  One would hope for non-encrypted by default.

   The external keyboard does nothing before the computer boots
up Windows.  But thanks for mentioning the alternate keys to enter
setup.  It may help someone else.  Haven't seen Alt-S myself, and
you can add F12 to your list.

--

   I guess if I have to open the thing up to get at the disk, I should
see what it takes to get to the keyboard.  Everything has to come
out from the bottom up.  Ick and/or yuck.

Regards,

Steve N.

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