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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2017, 12:36:26 AM »
Thank you, mineiro. I live in Madrid, not Barcelona, so I'm fine so far for now. The irritant of this issue is that I believe that we have been the ones who have brought this problem to us consciously and not for goodness, now it is difficult to fix, either in Catalonia, Spain or Europe itself. You can only hope that it will not touch you.

As for the US, I do not follow much of its current situation, but I think that they begin to experience a political and social division that has long been installed would say in all Europe. I hope they get the best they can. And our forum's American friends get back here.
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2017, 12:40:09 AM »
I remember Farabi posting on this board, when he get involved with drugs, posting that has been abduced, mind control, mind reading. He have tried to get out that when found a job but turned back again on drugs abuse. After that, no news.  :icon_confused:

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I remember a conversation I had with rrr probably earlier this year. He was emphatic in stating that we would create alliances because there are people in the US who want to destroy others.
I answered that there are alliances, one of them is BRICS. I want to talk openly with Russians, Indians, Chinese and South Americans, but it seems to me that they do not want to get involved in this.
I suppose for language difficulties or insight on the subject.
Is the US good or bad? It is not good to generalize, it is not good to have an opinion formed. We are all manipulated by the mainstream media to the point where we no longer reflect, we only swallow information that is not our problem.

I come from a family of military and politicians, one grandfather fought in WW2 while another was mayor of a town. That's why I have this human side that wants dialogue.
I'd rather be this ambulant metamorphosis than to have that old opinion about everything

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2017, 02:25:25 AM »
I get to read and see a lot of analysis from the US about the internal problems in the US. Neither the people nor the elected government have much sway there when very powerful interests behind the scene exercise so much power that they are beholding to nobody. The endless wars to keep the armament industry going is not something that many Americans support and they certainly don't want to send their kids to some sh*thole in a foreign country to get maimed or killed.

A lot of these kids in the US army as basic grunts are there because they can't get a job, not because they want to go to war. The powers behind the scene just see them as cannon fodder to keep the wars going. The other factor is the massive amounts of money these parasites are dragging out of the US economy to fund all of this military hardware. They have been ripping the guts out of ordinary American taxpayers for years and put nothing back.

Back when the US had decent presidents, you had a war hero like IKE who identified the "Military Industrial Complex" as the great danger to America. His warning was not heeded and the damage is ongoing. John Kennedy was a person of vision with a good grasp of American history but after him the wheels fell off. All the way with LBJ, Trick E. Dicky, Gerald Who ? Ronny Ray Gun, Carter was an OK human being but a peanut politically, Clinton committed a grave injustice to a good Cuban cigar and lets not forget Daddy Bush and his imbecile son.
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2017, 03:21:32 AM »
A lot of young people go into the military kind of because jobs,but the larger reason is Collage,something most do not have resources for,and also the Military trains you for a job when you get out. It used to be that being a veteran companies would hire you with no experience because you were more 
disciplined than the average high school kid,because the military trained you like that.

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2017, 04:10:03 AM »
So, socialism creates jobs and provide free education.

The US army is the largest employer and hence the largest socialistic enterprise in the world.

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2017, 01:12:34 PM »
Neither the people nor the elected government have much sway there when very powerful interests behind the scene exercise so much power that they are beholding to nobody.

You got that right. Any foreign country that trusts "US" to do the right thing is in trouble. Any country that doesn't trust "US" is also in trouble. ... Conclusion: You guys are in trouble! Here's a country with thousands of nukes, whose hidden owners are monomaniacs who will never be satisfied no matter how much money they steal, and you worry about Russia and China. Those countries are your only hope when the sh*t hits the fan about 60 years from now. Treat them nice!

BTW, for the most part the rest of us are as decent as anyone else. But we have about as much power and influence as my cat.
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2017, 02:21:12 PM »
Yeah yeah but at least the cat won't get arrested for sharpening its claws on the front fence.
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »
Depends on whose fence it is...
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2017, 06:37:35 PM »
... when the sh*t hits the fan about 60 years from now...

I see you have some unknown reason to mention that  "60 years" deadline more than once. Could you, please, shed a little light on it?

BTW I always wanted to ask if you have any  written works on simulation theory ?

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2017, 01:49:26 PM »
60 years: In 1976, the bicentennial, I realized things weren't working out so well. It turns out that 1973 was, in fact, a watershed. Gas prices skyrocketed, and the Middle East settled into the permanent "open sore" it is, draining money, resources and goodwill from USA. New York started putting the pedal to the metal. They had less than 10% of the wealth before that, now it's near 30%. I was in NY that year and somehow picked up on that attitude: "we own you". Many other signs were in the wind. I definitely didn't clearly understand much of this, but strongly felt the end had become inevitable, unlike 1969, when there was still hope. The party was over! Well, I compared the situation to Roman history. Around 200 AD writers like Juvenal felt much the way I did: the Empire was doomed. I saw prior parallels; WWI was the beginning of the US Empire, etc. And the Romans fell apart around 400 AD. I guessed things were progressing twice as fast in the modern era. Bottom line: the "end of USA" (whatever exactly that will mean) 100 years later, the Tricentennial, 2076. 60 years from now. It was just a guess but it was "my" guess :-) so I kept it in mind. Events have continued to line up pretty well for 40 years. Sometimes everyone else thought the end was "tomorrow" (like, 2009). Sometimes they all thought it would never end (1995 or so). But I always stuck to my prediction. Today I see no reason to change it! It might be 30 years, or 120. But it's not 10, or 200. The trends all look "good". Regular Americans reduced to nothing; Middle East situation spilling over into Europe; Russia and China military power overtaking USA; eveybody hates USA; and so forth. So, FWIW, that's my prediction.

Simulation: I've written a lot over the years but it's all pretty disposable. Here's two very recent posts from Quora on the topic, FWIW. I have more stuff floating around here and there.
https://www.quora.com/What-proof-do-we-have-that-matter-exists-physically-in-spacetime-that-discourages-the-simulation-hypothesis/answer/George-Rush-4?srid=udsI8
https://www.quora.com/If-our-reality-is-a-simulation-what-is-the-reality-of-the-beings-who-created-the-simulation-Doesnt-there-have-to-be-another-form-of-creation-somewhere-in-the-equation/answer/George-Rush-4?srid=udsI8
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2017, 05:44:25 PM »
It turns out that 1973 was, in fact, a watershed. Gas prices skyrocketed

That is an interesting hypothesis (I agree with most of what you write btw). It is the first time that the primitive people who were born on top of a huge reserve of "brown gold" realised that they could act as an oligopoly, and become stinking rich. Soon after, the MIC realised that these people couldn't actually spend all that money for benign things alone, so they convinced them that military power is important etc. Combine that with boys studying at Western universities whose goal in life can be described as "son of stinking rich father", and you have the recipe for what is happening in Yemen, Syria and elsewhere. Perfect. The solution, btw, is taxing energy in the consumer countries, but cheap energy is a religious dogma in the U.S., and Europe alone can't reduce the economic power of the oil exporters to a reasonable level (plus, there are arms exporters also in D, F, ...).

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2017, 05:44:32 PM »
> and the Middle East settled into the permanent "open sore" it is, draining money, resources and goodwill from USA.

I think you may be looking through rose coloured glasses here, in that time frame as earlier the US through its corporations and military support of same were sucking the life out of countries from central America to the middle east. I am much of the view that the US at the moment is far too powerful to be taken down by a foreign power but that it is being destroyed from within by a form of corporate cannibalism that will keep ripping the guts out of mainstream America until it is drained of the last viable resource it has.

Over the last couple of elections American voters have voted for the promise of change with both Obama and Trump but in both instances ordinary Americans have been disappointed as the underlying power in the US will block any attempt to change the status quo using any method they like. Very big money, massive corporations and massive debt dumped on ordinary American taxpayers funding the military/industrial complex is doing terminal damage to the US as a nation, decaying infrastructure, cities going bust, manufacturing shutting down and the inability to deal with emergencies like New Orleans are all signs of the destruction of the US and nothing seems to be stopping it.

Now of course the choice is to migrate to Canada or learn Mexican Spanish and go south, more radically would be to dump US citizenship and migrate to China or perhaps India as they are both "go ahead" economies or if you have a pioneering spirit, pick up some free land in Siberia ALA Vladimir and restart the wild west. Some Americans with enough money are becoming New Zealand citizens and probably a few here in OZ as well but sad to say OZ is trying to become like the US so there may be no gain there.
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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2017, 08:47:27 PM »
@rrr314159

Thanks for your answer and links to your  Quora postings.
I like your rational manner of  predicting the future. It's something like  Laplace's demon - the more you know  the more precise predictions you can make ...

I got interested in sim theory several years ago. Tweaking personal reality is current trend as I see it. 

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2017, 08:59:06 PM »

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Re: Any news from farabi ?
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2017, 09:12:40 PM »
The solution, btw, is taxing energy in the consumer countries, ...

That's a fine idea, I'm all in favor of it ... but I don't think there is a "The solution". The situation is beyond any quick fix.

I think you may be looking through rose coloured glasses here, ...

Since everything you say is consistent with my view I deduce you mean that 60 years is too long. What would you say, 20?

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Now of course the choice is to migrate to Canada or learn Mexican Spanish and go south, more radically would be to dump US citizenship and migrate to China ...

But since I'm quite sure I'll be dead before my local support environment disintegrates, I don't need to go anywhere. If you're right, and it's as short as 20 years ... well, at that age perhaps a quick bullet or bomb will be welcome anyway

I got interested in sim theory several years ago. Tweaking personal reality is current trend as I see it.

In my software career my major projects were simulators (not games, but Navy and Merchant Marine) so it was very natural to imagine the universe itself is a sim. I predict, FWIW, that will be an acceptable mainstream hypothesis in about 20 years

@nidud thanks for reminding us of the personal cost paid by others (Mosul, Kabul) for the USA's ongoing transformation from "good guy" into "bad guy". I knew some of those people myself, in the 1970's. No doubt they're all much less happy today, if still alive. If it makes you feel less guilty, remember your own European countries will be feeling the impact of US bombs in about 60 years also

Finally, remember poor farabi, subject of this thread! Hope he's doing Ok wherever he is but I'm not optimistic
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