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€2,420 million fine
« on: June 27, 2017, 10:52:58 PM »
€2,420 million fine from the European Union to Google for abuse of dominant position.

I wonder what politicians are going to do with that money. Will they distributed it in bonuses between themselves?

Microsoft dominated with its search engine and, however, came Google and overruled it. Is this regulation really necessary? Who regulates the regulator?

What if Google now would fire its employees in Europe to adjust its spending?
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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2017, 11:59:23 PM »
I have much the same comment, a grubby grab for money by the EU trying to extend its powers. They tried to force a levy for any airline that did not comply with their emission laws but the big players, US, China etc ... told them to "get stuffed" and they gave up on the idea. I support any country that wants to escape from the clutches of the EU.
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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2017, 12:37:06 AM »
Donald Dumb strikes back: Volkswagen to pay $2.8-billion criminal fine in U.S. diesel emissions scandal

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2017, 12:37:32 AM »
I'm thinking of emigrating to Norway.  :biggrin:

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2017, 01:56:22 AM »

 :biggrin:

Your more than welcome Marinus (many of your fellow countrymen actually do that) but you have to consider the following:

- we pay more per capita to the union than any other member state
- we have to comply to all rules and regulation from the union without having a vote

It's like a street-gang blocking the road to the shop: an extortion racket that prohibit free trade.

The main trading partner of Norway has always been Sweden, as history and geography dictates. Sweden on the other hand do most of their trade with the continent. Then some scoundrels erected a trade-wall between Sweden and the continent, demanded extortion fees. The Swedes caved in and the wall was moved to Scandinavia: split and conquer.

That's how all these major wars starts:  extortion, sanctions and trade-blocks.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2017, 03:37:17 AM »
What if Google now would fire its employees in Europe to adjust its spending?
They are making no favour to Europe.
I really hate Google's nosey spirit and have no doubt they are just another from a vast plethora of CIA/NSA front ends set up to sniff everything no matter where and what.   :(
 

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2017, 05:08:33 AM »
- we pay more per capita to the union than any other member state
- we have to comply to all rules and regulation from the union without having a vote

I didn't know that, I thought the Norwegians were the last free people of Europe.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2017, 06:18:42 AM »
You get a different view from the outside looking in, something the Brits now gradually waking up to. In this there are some hope in the coming negotiations that may lead to some improvements.

However, there are some good things coming out of the union as well and I think the monopoly regulation for big corporations, like Microsoft and Google, is one of those good things.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 10:17:34 AM »
I am with AW on this one, large American corporations cannot be trusted. Endless scraping any information they can for both their own advertising revenue AND keeping the NSA/CIA/Homeland Security happy by kissing their arse. Microsoft I am used to but recently setting up this tablet I have been playing with, you had to keep fighting off the number of attempts to extract ever more information out of you.
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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 06:06:03 PM »
Don't we like it? Let's make something better, or at least don't we use it... if we can :biggrin:
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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 06:52:00 PM »
Don't we like it? Let's make something better, or at least don't we use it... if we can :biggrin:
The search engine has some value in spite of the biaised results. But this is only the candy face of a monster that may know more about you than your best friends.  :shock:

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 07:52:03 PM »
I am with AW on this one, large American corporations cannot be trusted. Endless scraping any information they can for both their own advertising revenue AND keeping the NSA/CIA/Homeland Security happy

Agreed. It seems that the EU is trying to show their teeth, in view of the Volkswagen scandal an interesting move. A trade war? Who knows...

The main point with privacy IMHO is that you and I couldn't care less: There are so many terabytes of crappy data around that nobody can handle that. We are just not interesting enough to justify a look by a human eye. But beware if anybody shows "potential", be it as a CEO or as a politician. As soon as Big Brother wants to know details about one single person among the 8,000,000,000 Earth Citizens, that person is in trouble. They will always find some nasty detail, just watch how they dissect the candidates for a judge's post in the U.S. Supreme Court. I bet all of them can be blackmailed, and will obey to the orders.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 07:41:59 PM »
hello nidud;
From what I know about your country is that you guys pay a lot of taxes but this payment come back to you citzens, so you have security, health, good educational system, transport system, ... . Is this right?
On my country we work 4 months by year just to pay taxes (like your country?) but that money don't come back, simple disappear. This can work on your country because have a solid liberal economy, well, with stable economy and government agencies you can also be anarcosocialist that will work, even anarcocapitalist.

Who regulates the regulator?
Nobody caballero;
Against a global goverment don't have anyone to help. The only solution is ask for exile to moon.
That's why I look strange to global warm. If your country cannot produce energy to sell or produce more, your country will never evolute., and if don't have a steel industry, more poor will be. Look for CERN, who you will think that will have infinite energy? Spain? Portugal? Norway?, no, will be germany, south korea, usa, china and russia. Well, my heros from any side (right or left) died of overdose.
This is not the end, let's open other countries barrier with "open society", this way we can enter that country and have more rights than guys that build that country. If that country don't like us so we crack their economy (metacracker) I don't like "reality cracking", I prefer "imaginarium crack" just to reach reality. And this go on with Unesco, UN (global legistative), ... .
I'd rather be this ambulant metamorphosis than to have that old opinion about everything

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 08:04:41 PM »
On my country we work 4 months by year just to pay taxes (like your country?) but that money don't come back, simple disappear.
In Portugal we may work more than 6 months for the taxes, mostly to pay for the civil servant clerks that earn 1.8 times more than employees in the private sector with similar jobs.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 08:07:07 PM »
On my country we work 4 months by year just to pay taxes (like your country?) but that money don't come back, simple disappear.
In Portugal we may work more than 6 months for the taxes, mostly to pay for the civil servant clerks, in strong unions commanded by the communists, that earn 1.8 times more than employees in the private sector with similar jobs.