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aw27

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2017, 01:34:21 AM »
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What I said was that there are Unions that are street armed forces of political parties set to destroy the system.

Think you find it's the other way around. It is the unions who hold the power (the money) and they support political parties who promote policies that enhance working conditions and wages for their members.
You have lots of difficulty in following an argument.
What I said, rewind to the beginning and check, was that politically mobilized Unions, namely in Portugal, are not fighting against the capital, capitalists outsmarted them, they are leading the civil servants class and fighting against other workers and the tax payers in general.


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As for crack-pot conspiracy theories (which I have to admit I find amusing) this one is rather interesting. So you went to Germany and all the streets where empty, there where no workers in the bars drinking; they where all at the factories working, late during the weekend.

So who do you think is behind all of this then? Is it the lizard-people, or maybe the Nazis has returned to created a master working-class and keep them locked up in the factories, or maybe it's just the aliens?

If you think about it, from the research you've done in Greece, they being out drinking all night, maybe they're the ones keeping the Germans locked up in the factories and stealing their money?

Did I give you any power of attorney to decide and broadcast what I am thinking about?
I know this is typical of far-leftists.

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I'm sorry to say I fail to see any connections there.

Really? :dazzled:

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #61 on: July 03, 2017, 04:33:51 AM »
You have lots of difficulty in following an argument.

You have arguments?

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What I said, rewind to the beginning and check, was that politically mobilized Unions, namely in Portugal, are not fighting against the capital, capitalists outsmarted them, they are leading the civil servants class and fighting against other workers and the tax payers in general.

So the oligarchs manage to divide the workers in Portugal and the workers lost because the capitalists outsmarted them.

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Did I give you any power of attorney to decide and broadcast what I am thinking about?

Yes.

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I know this is typical of far-leftists.

It is? I didn't know that.

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Really? :dazzled:

Well, you could explain it instead of giving me the power of attorney to decide and broadcast what I think you mean, but you didn't. You provided a link to a Nazi who killed a lot of people from the labor party in Norway supported by the unions.
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aw27

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2017, 03:25:30 PM »
You provided a link to a Nazi who killed a lot of people from the labor party in Norway supported by the unions.
I provided a link to a nazi that alone killed 77 people in 2 attacks in the same day, including 69 young leftists that went to an island to be brainwashed.
Police took ages to stop him in spite of knowing his whereabouts since the beginning.
Was this an isolated case? Of course not.
And you simply answer: "So what? Don't you see that our oil rich society is a model of virtues".

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2017, 04:45:25 PM »
I provided a link to a nazi that alone killed 77 people in 2 attacks in the same day, including 69 young leftists that went to an island to be brainwashed.

Agreed that the idiot is a nazi. But summer camp of Workers' Youth League = brainwashing? Would you use the same term if the camp was organised by the catholic church?

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2017, 08:46:58 PM »
Hello aw27;
I can confirm some of your sentences.
I have been in all the popular movements that culminated in the impeachment of the president of Brazil. I saw several people wearing shirts with the colors of the flag of my country, demanding improvements.
The government without popular approval then called for moves in its favor (Union of workers), but for that he gave citizens a red shirt, about 8 dollars and snacks. He bought zombies who did not know what they were doing there.
They are manipulating people, why not give it to the people for free? Do people need to agree and show their support to deceive other masses? I do not agree with this governmental attitude.

I understand when you spoke about 'dialectic'. A context manages to squirm over and over again in its opposite only with the aim of not trying to be denied.
A person who helps an old lady cross the street. What did this person do? People confuse kindness with socialism in my country. This is even happening in the Vatican nowadays.

You see, if I am against racial quotas in Universities (blacks in my country have 20% vacancies in public universities) they say that I am evil (dialectic). I am in favor of quotas for the poor, there are many richer blacks than I am.

On global sense; centralizing power and dividing people.
I'd rather be this ambulant metamorphosis than to have that old opinion about everything

aw27

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2017, 10:20:13 PM »
Would you use the same term if the camp was organised by the catholic church?
No, if I do I may loose my seat at the right hand of God.

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« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2017, 10:23:21 PM »
I can confirm some of your sentences.
Thank you. :t

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2017, 10:31:38 PM »
So if the workers gives more money to the oligarchs they could afford to by lobsters and the workers who disagree are brainwashed.

I provided a link to a nazi that alone killed 77 people in 2 attacks in the same day, including 69 young leftists that went to an island to be brainwashed.

Yes, that's how it begins. They organize themselves in unions and start educate the children: If you don't fight these evil unions they will steal your lobster!

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Was this an isolated case? Of course not.

Yes, Sunday school, that's the way to go  :t

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And you simply answer:

Not sure what "anarco" means but yes everything works. Capitalism works if people don't know how the system works and socialism only works if they do. The left will for this reason funnel money into libraries, universities and education while the right will prefer homeschooling, Sunday school and stuff like that.

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2017, 01:01:25 AM »
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Capitalism works if people don't know how the system works and socialism only works if they do. The left will for this reason funnel money into libraries, universities and education while the right will prefer homeschooling, Sunday school and stuff like that.
Good example of how the leftist brainwashing is done.  :t
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mineiro

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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2017, 03:23:18 AM »
Hello caballero
Something similar happened here, a nationalist president doubled the salary of the worker, the entrepreneurs then doubled the price of the products.
The president seemed to be benefactor while the businessmen as evildoers.
I am in favor of buying power rather than increasing the amount of paper.
Sounds that I have guessed right.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39768671
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Re: €2,420 million fine
« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2017, 03:44:59 AM »
>Mineiro

I knew that, Maduro shouted to a mass of followers that he would raise their salary to the double by law, and these in turn shouted sick.

I don't know if Maduro does not know the basic principles of the economy or is unknown by all of them, but by simple logic, if it were as simple as that, there would be no poor countries.

Money, finally, is nothing more than a commodity that serves to exchange products. The final part of the story is the exchange of these products. If in return for my pig you give me 20 hens, now you can not convince me to give you my pig for 2 hens.

In the end progress is achieved with work and economy. In my opinion there are thousands of inventions that try to convince us otherwise, that they do nothing but put trash under the carpet, which sooner or later ends up getting out spouting.
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