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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 10:21:36 PM »
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/05/04/kerry-quietly-seeking-salvage-iran-deal-helped-craft/2fTkGON7xvaNbO0YbHECUL/story.html

Do you have a link to an official Iranian site confirming that story?

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Kerry also met last month with German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and he’s been on the phone with top European Union official Federica Mogherini, according to the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal the private meetings. Kerry has also met with French President Emmanuel Macron in both Paris and New York, conversing over the details of sanctions and regional nuclear threats in both French and English

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 03:49:12 AM »
Only a check done by dutch bnr nieuwsradio https://twitter.com/hashtag/IranDeal?src=hash

Iran’s Ministry Spokesman #HosseinJaberiAnsari warned Western officials this week that if they don’t put pressure on Trump the Iranian regime will leak names of all Western officials who were bribed to pass the Iranian deal.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/HosseinJaberiAnsari?src=hash

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2018, 06:52:01 AM »
What a pity that nothing was published so far. But if you are interested in some very intriguing research on the behaviour of UK politicians, don't miss this recently published study.

I attach the pdf - apologies to Hutch for wasting server space, but this is a must read.

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2018, 08:31:44 AM »
Its hard to put a handle on what is happening at the moment as western main stream media are simply feeding us bullsh*t. I am still fascinated at how so many American politicians are willing to commit treason against their own elected president. What is happening is like a simple arithmetic dilemma, when 2 + 2 = 5, you know something is being added that we are not told about.

Trump bashing, Russia bashing, Arab bashing, North Korea bashing, this crappy scam just goes on and on. I thought May was an improvement over that other slimy bastard but after the bullsh*t Scripal case she doesn't seem to be any better. Then there is the taxpayer funded Islamic State Air Force provided by European, American and a few other governments including ours that is contributing to the security of the world by blatantly funding and supporting terrorism.

You don't have to be a genius to understand who gains from an unstable world fuelled by wars, massacres and genocide, smart bombs anyone ? How about a few billion taxpayers dollars for a flying phukup like the F35 ? For readable journalism you have a better chance of getting the truth from the old Commo rag Pravda than listen to current western main stream media.

Long ago IKE coined the term "military / industrial complex", itself a part of the "swamp" in the US but France and the UK have their own flavour of the same thing and support attacking easy targets for much the same reason, armament sales.

The current economic disease afflicting populations in western countries is sold under the label of "Austerity", in the US its the split between Main Street and Wall Street, in the UK you have an ever increasing number of people below the poverty line and Europe is reaping the benefits of supporting the war in Syria with a massive influx of cheap free labour and this is after doing the same thing in Libya. It is no better here, we had a yokel from the boondocks in west OZ who went out of his way to attack the poorest people in the country to fund a 50 plus billion set of tax cuts to foreign shareholders.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2018, 01:52:34 PM »
What a pity that nothing was published so far

Money and power decides what's the truth or not.

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In a nutshell, social priming suggests that one’s position on the left-right political dimension might be embodied.
In short, one might expect to find that the hand one wipes one’s bottom with is predictable by one’s political position.

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we had a yokel from the boondocks in west OZ who went out of his way to attack the poorest people in the country to fund a 50 plus billion set of tax cuts to foreign shareholders.

Our PM Mark Rutte made a 1.4 billion euro tax cut deal for the shareholders of Shell.
Shell's British shareholders are exempt from dividend tax in the Netherlands.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2018, 05:23:12 PM »
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In a nutshell, social priming suggests that one’s position on the left-right political dimension might be embodied.
In short, one might expect to find that the hand one wipes one’s bottom with is predictable by one’s political position.

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Note this is a publication in a peer-reviewed journal (PPRS, Psychology and Psychotherapy: Research Study, Crimson Publishers - scroll down half a page to see the Gerry Jay Louis "submission"). I attached the pdf above because I fear this jewel may soon disappear from the journal's site, when somebody there realises that they are right in the middle of a s**tstorm (pun intended):

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We recruited our participants from a leading UK political institution referred to colloquially as ‘Houses of Parliament’. All participants were well-known political figures, and included Boris Johnski, Teresa Maybe, and Placido Domingo. ...
Unfortunately, the politician Nigel F. ‘Arage told the research assistant to ‘bog off’ when asked the hand-wiping question and so his data was necessarily excluded from the analysis. ...
Jeremiah Doorbin responded that he used a munchkin from The Sound of Music to do the wiping

They are absolute right about the last point, "Visibility through different online platforms" :icon_mrgreen:

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2018, 06:08:55 PM »
> Our PM Mark Rutte made a 1.4 billion euro tax cut deal for the shareholders of Shell. Shell's British shareholders are exempt from dividend tax in the Netherlands

I believe that The Nederlands attracted the Italian multinational FIAT.

Due to Brexit, British companies will have much more difficult access to the large European market, so many companies based in the UK have decided or will decide to settle elsewhere. This flow is intended to be captured by many EU countries. Particularly Ireland, if I'm not misinformed. But it seems that The Nederlandas are also taking determined steps to attract them.

Objectively, what is the problem with this recruitment? The shareholders will be exempt from the dividend tax, but if The Nederlands manages to keep this oil, I say that it will have won a lot. It will continue paying taxes for its activity, there will be plenty of available jobs with high purchasing power, highly qualified workers, research and development jobs. All this also pays taxes and generates a research and advance environment.

When the time comes, the most qualified workers of these companies will be in The Nederlands, not in Italy or in the UK.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 06:18:16 PM »
Objectively, what is the problem with this recruitment? The shareholders will be exempt from the dividend tax, but if The Nederlands manages to keep this oil, I say that it will have won a lot.

You are right, this is a great idea. I think all EU countries should do the same, and introduce zero dividend tax laws for all big companies :t

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2018, 06:58:26 PM »
No, the big idea is to inflate us with taxes. The current situation is that FIAT is no longer Italian.

With the economic crisis the IRPF was raised in certain countries of the EU up to 70%, the situation required it. Is the situation better now? That they take away more than 30% of what one wage is a theft, plain and simple.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2018, 07:03:32 PM »
1.4 billion tax money is a lot for a small country as the Netherlands.
Is it fair that millions of poor people need to pay for a handful rich thiefs that live by other laws and rules?
This money could be spend in a better way.

BTW, Shell ( Royal Dutch Shell ) is a Dutch-British multinational.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2018, 07:05:55 PM »
That they take away more than 30% of what one wage is a theft, plain and simple.

If more countries follow your "zero taxes on dividends are good" idea, then taxes on wages and value added tax will have to be increased even more. Don't forget that Donald T. sends letters now reminding EU states that they must double their defense expenditures. That must be financed somehow. If you stop taxing the super rich companies, then the revenue must come from other sources, i.e. YOU.

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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2018, 07:30:03 PM »
I didn't know that Shell was also a Dutch company, so what is the proposit of anulate the taxes to Shell in the Netherlands? Incorporate it entirely to The Netherlands? Can its economy afford it? I don't know, definitelly.

I do not defend the policy of annulling taxes, but of not rising them, included to any citizen.

If you raise taxes to businesses, the small ones, which can not escape, will end up closing; the big ones will end up leaving. Without companies there is no work, there are no salaries.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2018, 07:42:26 PM »
Unfortunately not our parliament is ruling our country but, Shell is.
The tax deal with Shell was a secret deal that came out and shocked most members of parliament and the people of the Netherlands.
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Re: Wonder how politicians become millionaires doing nothing?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2018, 08:16:01 PM »
Another story how Shell operates.
I live in the Dutch province Groningen were we have the largest natural gas field in Europe.
Owned by a daughter company of Shell, the NAM.
A lot of years now we have earthquakes and many houses are damaged or uninhabitable.

Can the NAM compensate the earthquake damage in Groningen?
Because Shell recently distanced itself from his troubled daughter, that is the question.
Shell is no longer responsible for NAM debts.

Guess who needs to pay for the damages?
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