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Siekmanski

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2018, 04:09:34 AM »
First it was called "Global Warming", the models were wrong.
Now they call it "Climate Change", models still don't represent the real measurements.
I would call it "Political Climate Hoax".

Prepare for the Mini Ice Age, 2020 - 2035.

Monckton's Mathematical Proof, destroys the pseudo science and stupidity in the IPCC papers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebokc6z82cg
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2018, 04:20:39 AM »
There was less forests in America and Africa in medieval era than today, but climate became colder around 1400 AD anyway.

Look at the graphic here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

Even if indeed existed (the Medieval Warm Period) the effect now is more pronounced and accelerating. Our grandsons will be roasted if nothing is done.

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2018, 04:32:42 AM »
Just wait a few years, see the movie in my previous post.  :biggrin:
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2018, 04:37:39 AM »
I would call it "Political Climate Hoax".

Prepare for the Mini Ice Age, 2020 - 2035.

Hi Siekmanski!

I note cold in my pocket right now! :biggrin:

Apparently extremes of minor fluctuations last between 200-600 years. Present warming begin around 1850. It have to last after 2050 ¿?.

Even if indeed existed (the Medieval Warm Period) the effect now is more pronounced and accelerating.

Yes, existed. Vikings growth cattle, horse and crops in Greenland

Our grandsons will be roasted if nothing is done.
Yes. We have to know what really happen.

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2018, 04:49:05 AM »
Seems it already started, weather today,

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3BB9UFRKH8
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2018, 05:27:28 AM »
Seems it already started, weather today,

There is not usual measures from previous warmings. More snow is expected because during warmings there is more water in air: yes, in some cold areas there is more ice during warmings . But more snow it's posible without more severe storms? We don't know a lot of things.

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2018, 06:07:22 AM »
Lord Christopher Monckton - Global Warming is a Hoax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGqcweY1a3I
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2018, 06:09:53 AM »
Monckton's Mathematical Proof, destroys the pseudo science and stupidity in the IPCC papers.

"For the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) released in 2007, over 3,500 experts coming from more than 130 countries contributed to the report" - all idiots, organised in that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Note the "governmental" - the Board gets actually paid by taxpayers' money! Fortunately we also have real climate scientists like Lord Christopher Monckton.

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2018, 06:26:05 AM »
 :biggrin:

It is always a good thing to study both sides and make up your own mind.
In present times we are bombarded with political pseudo science.
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2018, 09:48:49 AM »
Mapping climatic conditions over a long period is not without its difficulties but a lot is known through research and it seems that the planet has never stopped evolving over its 4.5 billion year history. The first great pollution scare happened about a billion years ago, oxygen. The culprit was a lifeform called stromatolites that belched this pollution into the atmosphere. There are still some off the coast of Western Australia.

The greening of the planet started with blue-green algae and the oxygen pollution level peaked about 300 million years ago with an over 30% content in the atmosphere which in turn produced massive forestation across the planet. The development of grasses and cooling produced the vast grasslands we have today which in turn reduced the size of the forests.

In OZ the ancient Gondwanaland forests gave way to the eucalypt forests that we have today and only a few areas of the old forests remain, some in Tasmania and a few small patches up and down the east coast of OZ. As OZ dried out over a long period the eucalypts took over as they are a better adaption than the ancient forests.

The point of addressing climatic change over a long period is that it happened long before humans had evolved and cannot be blamed on humans and their technology. While there is much that needs to be done in terms of pollution and land degradation to reduce the level of human degradation of the world environment, some things are beyond human capacity, variations in the planet orbit, alterations of the tilt of the planet and the amount of energy from the sun are things we must adapt to or become the dinosaurs of the future.

Some of the bullsh*t we hear today where the popular solution is to sit in a cave, freezing your arse off while introspecting at your navel and contemplating suicide to save the planet does not address some of the well know facts about recent planet history. After the last ice age when the planet was experiencing global warming there was a period known as the "younger dryas" where the average global temperature plummeted for a period of time then rose again which makes a nonsense of the notion that the current temperature rises are unique.

There is some evidence that suggests that something came in with a thud that caused the younger dryas and this is derived from a strata layer of about 10 thousand years ago. The history of the planet is full of activities of this type. Rather than scare mongering, adaption to change is the only real solution in conjunction with not crapping all over the planet with waste and pollution.
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2018, 12:27:02 PM »
Error found in de feedback loop algorithm used by the Climate Alarmists.
It's a bit mathematical but, not hard to follow.

Global warming, not more than 1.0 to 1.2 degrees  celcius in the next 150 years.....

The Error in Climatology,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcxcZ8LEm2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5_u0iQ-Um8
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2018, 02:08:11 PM »
The Error in Climatology,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcxcZ8LEm2A

That's breaking news indeed! Try googling Monckton "climate models forgot the sun" 8)

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Re: What the Health
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2018, 11:22:13 PM »
There are 2 types of scientists,

1) Politically driven and funds grabbing "scientists". The more research funds are up for grabs, the greater the speculations.
2) Real scientists.

The value of the simple model, particularly when informed by parameters arguably more reasonable than those adopted by the IPCC, is in facilitating examination of the reasons why extreme overpredictions are being made—predictions that governments are acting upon.

As to whether the predictions of general-circulation models or of the simple model will prove correct in the long run, only time will tell. For recent decades, though, the simple model is proving closer to reality.

Keeping it simple: the value of an irreducibly simple climate model.

Important article you must read: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095927316303589
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2018, 12:49:10 AM »
 :biggrin:

I had one more comment to add, in response to the notion that the Earth needs friends, look at some footage taken into the crater of an active volcano and you will see just how much the planet needs us. Life on Earth is something like a microbe on a marble.
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Re: What the Health
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2018, 04:49:19 AM »
Better not belittle the humans, they represent only 0.01% of all life but have already destroyed 83% of wild mammals (source 'the Guardian').
Time to act now before they destroy the planet.   :idea: