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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #210 on: October 04, 2019, 03:22:12 AM »
Without carbon dioxide, we would have snowball Earth.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #211 on: October 04, 2019, 03:48:10 AM »
If you do it the right way and keep it at the real proportions of CO2,

A) bottle with natural CO2
B) bottle with natural + antropogenic CO2

I whish you luck in finding a temperature sensor that can measure the difference.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #212 on: October 04, 2019, 04:02:43 AM »
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That kind of pseudoscience is a problem at certain level. In the "experiment" are confunded effects of heat generated by salt disolution, solution opasity, air pressure, water vapour, CO2 and drops in the wall of the jar (almost forget that this is assuming bottles are identical and amount of water the same). 

In same page is reported a little more carefull experiment which obtain 0.75 °C of difference instead of 9 °C. As expected conclusions are the same in this case, but sometimes are completely different with a correct experimental design or after to account for noise effects.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #213 on: October 04, 2019, 04:12:29 AM »
Without carbon dioxide, we would have snowball Earth.

And with too much we end up as Venus.

If you do it the right way and keep it at the real proportions of CO2,

In the natural cycle the global north don't release any carbon during the winter when it's covered with ice and snow, so the excess of carbon released during the summer is then consumed by the tropical south. The ear you exhale right now will be on the other side of the planet within six days so it is the wind who distributes this natural fertilizer evenly around the world.

If the global north releases more carbon during the winter than the natural cycle and at the same time chop down the tropical forest in the south the amount of carbon will accumulate and so will the temperature.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #214 on: October 04, 2019, 04:30:11 AM »
This is a stupid test in a closed environment not representing reallity.
The Alka-Seltzer tablet causes a reaction producing more energy and higher pressure in the bottle.

But it is an ideal experiment to scare little kids at school.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #215 on: October 04, 2019, 04:50:11 AM »
This is a stupid test in a closed enivironment not representing reallity.
The Alka-Seltzer tablet causes a reaction produsing more energy and higher pressure in the bottle.

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There is done hundreds (if not thousands) experiments of this kind over the years including plants and insects, human and farm animals, low/high pressure/altitude/gasses and so on. All with the same results.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #216 on: October 04, 2019, 05:21:51 AM »
It has been demonstrated plenty of times, and the calculations have been tested quite a bit, see below.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #217 on: October 04, 2019, 06:27:15 AM »
The treatment of all greenhouse gases as “CO2-equivalent”, using a metric known as global warming potential (GWP).
This misrepresents the impact of short-lived climate pollutants, such as methane, on future warming.
Drew Shindell, a NASA climate scientist, believes that, while methane dissipates faster than carbon dioxide, it is easier to deal with right now.
“Success in controlling CO2 emissions is likely to make very little difference on temperature over the next 40 years,” he says.

CO2 life-span, there is still no consensus.
Is it 5, 12, ..... 100 years?

It is true that an individual molecule of CO2 has a short live time in the atmosphere.
However, in most cases when a molecule of CO2 leaves the atmosphere it is simply swapping places with one in the ocean.
Thus, the warming potential of CO2 has very little to do with the live time of CO2.
What really governs the warming potential is how long the extra CO2 remains in the atmosphere.
CO2 is essentially chemically inert in the atmosphere and is only removed by biological uptake and by dissolving into the ocean.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #218 on: October 04, 2019, 08:02:52 AM »
Ja Boet (Brother)

Are we forgetting the maximum quantum energy of CO2 ...as we beat about the bush - Now there's another name source of all this BS.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #219 on: October 04, 2019, 08:18:59 AM »
We have all heard the gabfest from the hysterical but no-one is telling us where all of the EXTRA gasses are coming from to create the greenhouse effect modelled from Venus. Is it by magic or is it powered by sheer imagination ?
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #220 on: October 04, 2019, 08:57:46 AM »
We have all heard the gabfest from the hysterical but no-one is telling us where all of the EXTRA gasses are coming from to create the greenhouse effect modelled from Venus. Is it by magic or is it powered by sheer imagination ?

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The greenhouse effect is modeled from Tellus not Venus.

The extra gasses comes from the ground. Each year leafs falls off the trees and creates a new layer which is pushed further down and gets more compressed. In it's purest form this turns into rock (coal), liquid (oil) and gas.

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #221 on: October 04, 2019, 10:11:48 AM »
Tellus is an alternative name for this planet and this planet has never experienced the effect that is recognised on Venus, enormously dense atmosphere of far higher volume that Earth.

> The extra gasses comes from the ground

The sum total of mass of the Earth is all you have and the gravitational field of Earth does not normally allow gas to escape. Unless you have a theory of additional gas coming from outside the planet, the amount of gas is finite and with this limitation, you cannot duplicate the Venus effect.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #222 on: October 04, 2019, 05:53:55 PM »
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The same old story, over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #223 on: October 05, 2019, 01:08:02 AM »
The info I have seen is that the northern hemisphere has much greater land mass than the southern hemisphere and that accounts for its generally much larger winter ice sheet than Antarctica which gets isolated by the great southern ocean. The first time I went to Tasmania when my mum lived on the north coast I nearly froze to death. Got out of the plane wearing a leather jacket, jumper, jeans and boots and was just about snap frozen. Next day at her place in Burnie, I saw it raining sideways, the wind was so high. Later a friend of hers drove us around and went to a lighthouse at Wynyard and I got out of the car to have a closer look and experienced hypothermia in under 30 seconds.

The drift is that the southern hemisphere is very different to the northern hemisphere due to far lower land mass and the complete loop of the great southern ocean that isolated Antarctica keep that continent colder that it would normally be.

How Ice Ages Happen: The Milankovitch Cycles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA788usYNWA

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Re: GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real
« Reply #224 on: October 05, 2019, 02:08:10 AM »
Guillaume Pitron the rare metals war. The way of manufacturing electric cars involves the use of highly polluting rare metals.

In addition, producing more electricity will require greater consumption of fossil fuels.

A report published in the German newspaper Taz states that Thunberg is generating more greenhouse gases than if it had flown, because the ship will be brought back to Europe by other sailors who must fly to the US. to pick it up. Herrmann will return, which will cause another flight.
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