GLOBAL WARMING IS A SCAM - David Icke | London Real

[Siekmanski]

NASA: Climate changes due to shifts in solar orbit, not human activity.

A nonsense click-and-bait article digging out an old NASA paper about Milankovitch cycles. The original paper (by Steve Graham, March 24, 2000) is here. Milankovitch cycles exist, and they are well covered in the 50,000 peer-reviewed articles about climate change. But they have nothing to do with the rapid increase of the CO2 concentration in the last 60 years. Their time scale is 100,000 years.

The point here is that the article link was quickly removed from the website of "One America News Network" without any explanation. It doesn't fit UN policies.

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The "Global average temperature deviation" trend in your global warming proggy are the homogenized raw temperature data sets.
Simply by checking newspaper articles ( historical research ) of the years before 1950,
all bulls**t about today's record high average and peak temperatures, extreme weather events, bush fires, arctic ice extent etc. can be thrown in the trash can.
Apparently changing our history is part of real science, or the properties of mercury have changed and the journalists were fraudsters.

If you still believe in Mann's hockey stick science (were he eliminated previous warmth periods), then you should read this article about the findings in receding glaciers:
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/06/21/receding-swiss-glaciers-reveal-4000-year-old-forests-warmists-try-to-suppress-findings/

Climate science funding by governments:
Pro-alarmism -> most likely funded.
Anti-alarmism -> not funded and a fat chance ending up on their funding blacklist.

Global Warming: Follow the Money
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne/

[jj2007]

The point here is that the article link was quickly removed from the website of "One America News Network" without any explanation. It doesn't fit UN policies.

Google says One America News is an American right-wing pay television news channel - do you really believe they would remove an article on request of the UN? C'mon, be serious...

As far as the rapid temperature/carbon/whatever rise, look at the younger dryas, makes this set of graphs look like childs play.

The highest CO₂ concentration during YD was 280ppm, and science is arguing about the impact of a 50ppm increase during that period. Yes, that's childs play compared to the 400 we have "achieved" by adding over 100ppm in less than a century.

rising deglacial CO2 had a significant impact on Greenland temperature during the YD despite a decrease in the AMOC. About 70% of the approximately 5 °C of warming between the YD and OD is caused by the concurrent approximately 50 ppm increase in atmospheric CO2

A less technical explanation can be found on the site of an important agency of a very, very conservative nation:

About 14,500 years ago, Earth's climate began to shift from a cold glacial world to a warmer interglacial state. Partway through this transition, temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere suddenly returned to near-glacial conditions. This near-glacial period is called the Younger Dryas...

but

climate changes in Antarctica were out-of-phase with those in the Northern Hemisphere

... i.e. it was not a global phenomenon.

Really, I'm amazed that you and Marinus are such staunch followers of Big Oil. If I believed in conspiracy theories, ...

[Siekmanski]

Really, I'm amazed that you and Marinus are such staunch followers of Big Oil. If I believed in conspiracy theories, ...

I don't care of Big Oil, just common sense and the ability of critical and logical thinking. 

Yes, the earth has become warmer since the late 1970's
Yes, man made CO2 is not the most significant driver of climate change.

[jj2007]

I don't care of Big Oil, just common sense and the ability of critical and logical thinking

Sure, common sense! As an engineer who has worked several decades on environmental issues, I am proud that I understand 10% of an article like Younger Dryas cooling and the Greenland climate response to CO2, so congrats that your common sense feeling is so much stronger than mine

Obviously, my ability of critical and logical thinking tells me that these scientists publishing for the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) could all have been bought by Greenpeace and George Soros. Or was it Warren Buffett? Anyway, one of those communists, right? 

[Siekmanski]

Then explain why we should trust the repeatedly changing and failing scientific climate predictions and ignore the ongoing attempts to rewrite history.

[hutch--]

 

> Really, I'm amazed that you and Marinus are such staunch followers of Big Oil. If I believed in conspiracy theories

This shows a lack of grasp of what works and what does not. Getting money out of big oil would be like wringing blood out of a stone where getting PHUN - DING out of the global banking scam is reasonably straight forward if you kiss their arse hard enough and sing for your supper. 

[TimoVJL]

Whats wrong in this picture ?
What they forgot ?

EDIT:
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[jj2007]

Whats wrong in this picture ?

the analysis by McIntyre and McKitrick was botched and showed numerous statistical errors including selective removal of records to invent 15th century warming

[caballero]

[...] blah, blah, blah

[AW]

Curiously, the same ones that defend Greta's postulates defend three opposing things:

Points 1 and 3 are the usual attempts to associate the action against Anthropogenic Climate Change with socialism/communism.
Point 2 - The manufacture of Electric Cars will be as much green as the production process will allow, it is being improved all the time and is wrong that it produces more emissions. The battery may be charged from renewable energy sources. But what is more important is that it is a sturdy move away from the OPEP cartel and their friends. Electric Cars still have a long way to go and are currently facing the same critics combustion engine cars faced from horse diligence coaches in early 20th century. But it is not possible to stop the progress.

On the other hand, Soros has a disturbing biography

Time for the ad hominem attack  - On the denial side we see all the saints and archangels on the science side all the sinners and devils.

Finally we are at the doors of a new world recession.

The World was never going to stop while we replace sources of energy. This will take many years.
And innovation can only contribute to revamp the economy - remember some people here have been saying that scientists are being heavily rewarded because there are strong interests involved?

[AW]

The global average atmospheric carbon dioxide in 2018 was 407.4 parts per million (ppm for short), with a range of uncertainty of plus or minus 0.1 ppm. Carbon dioxide levels today are higher than at any point in at least the past 800,000 years.
...
In fact, the last time the atmospheric CO2 amounts were this high was more than 3 million years ago, when temperature was 2°–3°C (3.6°–5.4°F) higher than during the pre-industrial era, and sea level was 15–25 meters (50–80 feet) higher than today.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide

Source NOAA Climate.gov
NOAA stands for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA scientists study the skies and the oceans.



There is no reason for panic   

[caballero]

blah, blah, blah...

[AW]

What are you talking about? It was not my intention to deepen this issue, nor is it my job to criticize. Here you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MekIiTzQaaQ

All right, 14 y.o George Soros as done what anyone in his good mind (except Mother Teresa) would do in his place: save his ass, the alternative would be to become a dead hero!   

But there are many more billionaires, other than George Soros, sponsoring climate change activism. The issue here is that many of them "want" to continue making "more" money as well so are playing a double game. This happens, for instance, with the Rockfeller family, Bill and Melling Gates and even Warren Buffett.

have ofended your religion

I am neither marxist nor religious. Sounds strange?

[hutch--]

 

There is a simple solution to climate change, buy carbon credits from some desperate 3rd world country then fire up the dirtiest, noisiest, filth producing industry spewing toxic chemicals into the air, plastics into the sea and filling the soil with toxic industrial waste the leeches out into the ground water for the next million years. Mercury in the water and you local fishing grounds anyone ?

The patsies who sacrifice convenience and pay extra costs for ordinary things like food will know that they have contributed to greening the planet with the extra costs they have had to shell out and they will never know that it is all a crock of chyte that sucked the money out of them for no long term gain. Don't tell the patsies that their garbage used to be exported to China who banned the import a couple of years ago and it more recently went to Indo China where those countries are now banning the same garbage being dumped on them.

Keep up the green - clean fantasy by shifting the debate to carbon dioxide and let the filth continue.

[HSE]

I am proud that I understand 10% of an article like Younger Dryas cooling and the Greenland climate response to CO2

Perhaps only is necesary to understand 1%:

Greenland climate has a muted response to increased atmospheric CO2, contrary to the enhanced impact of anthropogenic greenhouse gases on high-latitude climate predicted by all state-of-art climate models (6).

There is no measurable effect of CO² in real world.

But some caution, is the forensic result in certain place, under conditions mostly unknown.