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Drought's in Australia
« on: January 05, 2020, 09:25:56 PM »
The current hysterics about how climate change has caused problems in Australia does not take into account the historical evidence. One can only ask Michael Mann how his hockey stick curve fits the pre 1900 droughts in Australia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drought_in_Australia#Droughts_in_the_19th_century




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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2020, 11:41:09 PM »
Perfect! So lean back, open a bottle of beer and enjoy the show :thumbsup:

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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2020, 12:11:33 AM »
Nah, just don't be taken in by the bullsh*t. Fire control and building location can be done by humans, with an ecology purified by fire, don't build houses in bushland unless you want them to burn down. Don't spend taxpayers money giving tax cuts to foreign corporations at the expense of funding cuts to fire fighters. The "all green and leafy" fallacy comes unstuck when houses burn down and people get burnt to death.

Just today I had a friend come over who had been down the south coast helping a family member save their property. A very wide fire break (about 1 mile), a couple of dams full of water, some high powered pumps and a farm vehicle with a water pump and a tank to extinguish the grass fires started by the flying embers. They succeeded in saving the buildings.
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2020, 01:22:28 AM »

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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2020, 01:25:36 AM »
May the source be with you

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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 05:47:58 AM »
I wonder who bothered to watch the "Global Climate model video" with its hockey stick curve. Same question as before, how well does it fit the droughts prior to 1900 ? Australia has been around for a lot longer than the periods used as reference.
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1803 Drought in New South Wales (NSW) that produced several crop failures.
1809 Beginning of an unusually severe drought in NSW that continued until 1811.
1813–15 Severe drought in NSW that prompted searches for new pastures.
1826–29 Severe drought in NSW that caused Lake George to dry up and the Darling River to cease flowing.[6]
> Since 1860, when adequate meteorological recording commenced, the most severe droughts have occurred commonly at intervals of 11 to 14 years. (Wikipedia)

With no motor vehicles, aircrafts flying overhead and very limited industrial activity, was it driven by magic or pure imagination.

You can manage bush fires the right way or the wrong way, we are currently seeing that latter.

https://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2012/05/28/3512963.htm
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2020, 06:48:38 AM »
Since 1860, when adequate meteorological recording commenced, the most severe droughts have occurred commonly at intervals of 11 to 14 years.
Those intervals are similar to the sun activity cycles mentioned by the real scientists, and on the Apollo farce as well.
Sh..t it's make the 'short term memory' climate morons look even more dense. ;)
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2020, 07:58:16 AM »
Climate alarmists always show graphs when the cyclic data is at it's lowest point moving upwards.
In the graph shown by Jochen they hide the very warm and drought period from 1890 to 1910.  :eusa_naughty:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4996634/926348

Australia's worst drought occurred from 1891 to 1903
History is a better tool than propaganda.  :thumbsup:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-07-16/federation-drought-analysis-finds-huge-ecosystem-losses/11312694
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2020, 11:09:13 AM »
Climate alarmists always show graphs when the cyclic data is at it's lowest point moving upwards.
In the graph shown by Jochen they hide the very warm and drought period from 1890 to 1910.  :eusa_naughty:

CSIRO are no "climate alarmists", they are the official government scientists working on that stuff. And they don't "hide" the data; these data were not collected before 1910.

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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2020, 11:39:37 AM »
Reputation is no substitute for fact and the pre 1900 droughts are fact.
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2020, 08:57:57 AM »
Climate alarmists always show graphs when the cyclic data is at it's lowest point moving upwards.
In the graph shown by Jochen they hide the very warm and drought period from 1890 to 1910.  :eusa_naughty:

CSIRO are no "climate alarmists", they are the official government scientists working on that stuff. And they don't "hide" the data; these data were not collected before 1910.

I'll give you an example how those "official government scientists" are working on that stuff.

NASA has been removing the 1940s warmth from the Arctic for many years.
When Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts queried them about this, they angrily denied they were doing it - and then quietly went off and fixed the problem.

NASA Confirms Their Own "Conspiracy Theory"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMc1o2tUBds
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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2020, 09:08:10 AM »
Sure :tongue:

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/nasa-chief-slaps-down-climate-sceptic-senator-malcolm-roberts-you-hold-a-number-of-misconceptions-20161121-gstp0y.html

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-24/nasa-director-schools-malcolm-roberts-in-climate-change-letter/8052132

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/14/debunking-malcolm-roberts-the-case-against-a-climate-science-denier

https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Malcolm_Roberts.htm

Here is a good one: https://www.desmogblog.com/malcolm-roberts
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Roberts also claims in the report:

“Logical scientific reasoning and empirical scientific evidence proves human CO2 cannot affect global warming.” [2]
“Carbon dioxide levels in air are a consequence of temperature, not a cause.”

Which is, of course, utter nonsense, but hey, the man is a respected politician :greenclp:

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Re: Drought's in Australia
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2020, 09:15:35 AM »
 :biggrin:

For all of the opinions, massaged climate models and propaganda, nothing beats the facts and pre 1900 droughts are facts. So much for Michael Mann's hockey stick curve, political correctness and a never ending number of "climate" scientists running the same climate model.
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