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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2020, 08:11:32 AM »
> China is slowly starting normal life again.

China has not reported new internal contagions, but imported ones. So it has decided derivated planes to airports far from Beijing where they will be quarantined before entering China.

The body is not immunized once the covid has passed.

> The installation of the New World Order has started, I mean, conspiracy theory
Yeah, I have heard some of them.
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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2020, 09:37:34 AM »
Two ministers in France are denounced for not acting in time against the coronavirus

"They were aware of the danger and had the means of action, which however they decided not to exercise"
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« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2020, 11:22:11 AM »
Just comparing some numbers,

2018: The Netherlands, more than 8,000 deaths by the Flu, not enough hospital beds.
No PANIC at all?????????????
213 Corona deaths big PANIC???

Why is the whole world in PANIC now?

World population 7,772,924,000
Deaths by Corona 16,495 = 0.0002%

Will the world wide lockdowns be worse than the Coronavirus itself?

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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2020, 12:35:20 PM »

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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2020, 01:12:06 PM »
We will have to see when the exponential growth of deaths will flatten out and fall down again.
Then we can compare it with the Flu numbers from previous years.
This will be very difficult because most of the suspected Corona deaths have not been tested and could be potential Flu victims.
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« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2020, 11:34:34 PM »
It is difficult to distinguish now between deaths from common flu and from covid. The truth is that the ICUs are overwhelmed, perhaps by a combination of both. Another thing that strikes me is the level of mortality that exists in Italy and also in Spain, compared to other countries such as Germany for example. Because we are talking about 10%, which is very high.

I would not have stopped the production system, but would have used the army to manage the use of public transport, the use of masks / gloves and the work in the production centers. I think this situation could have been better managed.

If the situation continues like this for a long time, we will soon forget about covid as the main problem, and start to see what we have done with the economy.

But I don't see in any country, that I know of, anybody who does something different to confine people to their homes.
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« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2020, 11:41:07 PM »
Hi caballero,

Personally, I ccongratulate the Germans. Disciplined and methodic folk. This is the secret of their success.

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I would not have stopped the production system, but would have used the army to manage the use of public transport, the use of masks / gloves and the work in the production centers. I think this situation could have been better managed.

This can work if you already have a plan to organize folks in such cases. The problem is that the whole planet is not prepared against this pandemic :  Confining people to their homes is probably not the best decision but this is the quickest decision to be executed at the moment.

Remembering for General George S. Patton's quote :

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A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.

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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2020, 12:21:19 AM »
As very organized as you are, I don't understand those numbers. The problem with this virus is that it saturates the ICUs. If we had an infinite line of ICUs there wouldn't be that much of a problem. So far we do not have that saturation. However, our mortality rate is 6.80%, while that of Germany is 0.45%. Could it be something genetic? Because in Italy mortality is also high. I do not know.

I would understand that there were few affected in Germany, but we are talking about 32,577.

One of the hypotheses is that in Germany they do not test the covid to the dead, they only count the covid infected who die. Still, the figures don't add up.

In any case, I hope they keep good.

I understand Patton's phrase, but we are not sure to get rid of the virus. What is certain is the strong economic impact.
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« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2020, 12:25:51 AM »
To annihilate the lives of human beings on the planet, we would need 266,196 deaths a day for 80 years, regardless of births. The last news I have is that the world population has stopped growing.

Imagine if the installation of the free world, a world without borders, mass migrations that we discussed so much had won.

Television has shown that countries with public hospitals are better than private hospitals. It's not what I see! They tried to induce a graphic curve in a vicious way, where in reality the number of habitants of each country should be compared, and not the cosmetic adopted by them.

Honestly, I see interest game again.
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« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2020, 12:31:15 AM »
Hi caballero,

I am very sorry to learn about whappened in Spain and Italy. The media is reporting every day the case in Europe and we follow the news.

It's not about the Genetics of the German people. It's all about the Robert Koch Institute, the diligence and the discipline of the folk.

There will be surely a strong economic effect. Let's hope the the scientists will succeed to synthesis a new medicine if possible. Of course, the preliminary tests of a new \ known medication to cure the disease can take time.

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« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2020, 02:19:40 AM »
The last news I have is that the world population has stopped growing.

It's still growing: https://www.worldometers.info/
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« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2020, 03:42:19 AM »
Maybe Covid-19 have a wrong target ?
Young and fertile is much better target for that, than old and sick ?
So it's just for for monetary purposes ?


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« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2020, 04:25:35 AM »
Thank you sir Siekmanski.


sir TimoVJL, I read some speculations but I prefer to remain impartial, they may be lies, I'm not sure:
Some say the RNA virus was created in the laboratory while some say the structure is related to that found in the bat. It is not good to focus on this issue because chemical and biological wars are unacceptable by any country in the world. The whole world unites against a single country.
Another was the relationship between covid and the number 33. The number 33 is the last degree of a Mason, some remember the age of Christ.
Another point was that the population of young people versus the elderly is becoming equal, how to solve problems like Social Security? Retirement? It happened in Brazil, France. Previous governments have pushed for the next generation, so young workers guarantee the elderly to retire, but this is changing. How to pay the elderly their pensions?
And finally, the plan for global mortality, fast (abortion, illness), medium (incentive to homosexuality, gender ideology, feminism).

I had forgotten, now the world is becoming more digital and virtual, it is the implantation of the new world order. It is a good time to check how many are connected, the points and paths, the relationships.
And another speculation I read was about new entrepreneurs; we know that there was a liberal(Mises/rothbard)-conservative(Adam Smith) wave in response to the growing socialism-communism (Marx, Engels) worldwide. Those who opened stores, businesses have now been forced to close. In portuguese language the word liberal means right while I suppose in english language means left, thats why I said names.
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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2020, 06:41:04 AM »
The number of health personnel infected by covid-19 in Spain are already 5,400, many more than people recovered. The lack of sanitary material and protection for them is scandalous. Many believe that the government simply does not have money for them. The case is that dozens of private companies have gone to work to manufacture and donate tons of such material. Don't talk about prevision.

https://www.elmundo.es/ciencia-y-salud/salud/2020/03/24/5e7a0c32fdddffbe7a8b4633.html
https://www.eldiariomontanes.es/economia/grandes-ibex-movilizan-20200324165326-ntrc.html?ref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F


As for the economy, I think it is clear that we will have to default on the debt. From there, we will have to lower salaries, pensions, etc. and, if we learn the lesson, working and spending less we will get out of it.

God bless the queen  :thumbsup:
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Re: antivirus recommendation wanted
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2020, 07:55:10 AM »
I've just listening that in the USA only risk people will be confined in house and the rest will go to work with security measures. What I have said here some days ago. Well done, this will be the finest, I think. Good luck  :thumbsup:
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