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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 10:43:19 PM »
Trump's reelection is just a necessary condition, which doesn't imply success over the deep state, just maybe leveling things off somewhat.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2020, 01:09:48 AM »
Funny that candidate Trump who raised roughly a Billion dollars for his election campaign against Ms Clinton from generous donors is not considered "deep state" :mrgreen:

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 01:14:20 AM »
My only complaint with Trump is the endless sabre rattling with China and the last thing the world needs is a conflict between two military super powers, especially as it is in my backyard as well. I don't for a moment see any of them as good guys even if each super power says THEY are the good guys, with emerging powers like India as well as China and Russia, the world balance of power is changing and some of those folks in the US government need to see that they no longer dictate the terms to the rest of the world.

I am much of the view that the US should stop pouring endless money into out of date military junk and start spending it IN the US so the bridges don't fall down, the roads get maintained, people have jobs and businesses (not corporations) survive and run at a profit. Supporting "main street" in the US will yield a good result where the support for Wall Street has dragged the US into crisis and with the continuing decline of support for the US dollar as the sanctions regime rages away, when the crash comes, it will be a bad one.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 02:45:01 AM »
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My only complaint..
Just one ?,US must be a little village without informations.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2020, 03:42:54 AM »
Deep state is the one that burns the streets to influence elections for their benefit, the one that establishes power lobbies to seize public money and establish power quotas in companies and submit the people to allow them to lead. People who stay home working are not in the deep state.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 04:34:11 AM »
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2020, 07:00:05 AM »
Trump demolishes the deep state covid-19 agenda.
As soon as the FDA approves the Pfizer corona-19 vaccines, they will be ready in october for the elderly people.
Lockdowns and fear mongering is no longer a weapon of the deep state.  :eusa_dance:

This should be breaking news all over the world, but it isn't.....
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 12:16:20 PM »
There will always be a new scam from the global elite, we has child porn, then terrorism, then poor Greta and of late the great global pandemic that while its no fun for the elderly, it too has been blown out of proportion to implement the "police state" around the world and sad to say one state in OZ has gone mad with its draconian lockdown to cover the arse of a failed policy by its premier.

Early in the piece when it was just starting up, the state government in Victoria did the security on the cheap for quarantine around hotels where one guy porked one of the ladies locked down in the hotel then went to his other job and shared around his infection. Its like a comedy of errors but after it exploded in his face, he set up a ridiculous regime of enforcement and isolation when the real problem has always been aged care facilities. Duh Fuhrer would have been proud of him.

We live in a world run by morons and crooks.

PS: A baby chucking a wobbly while having its napkin changed is now a child pornographic violent terrorist.  :tongue:
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 05:36:52 PM »
Disgusting to see the videos how the people are treated by the police [corona gestapo] all over the world.
It's Nazi Germany all over again, they run the same Play-Book as in 1933.

Health science is a state-secret in our country, they will not release any corona research results and/or explain where the numbers come from, all court cases to get them are lost.
Corrupt justice.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 09:37:57 PM »
Health science is a state-secret in our country, they will not release any corona research results and/or explain where the numbers come from, all court cases to get them are lost.
Corrupt justice.
In Brazil, the Judiciary took preventive actions on the coronavirus from the president's hands and transferred it to governors and mayors.
If someone broke their leg or had a headache, they classified it as covid because the states would receive more money from the federal executive.
One example, in the State of São Paulo, they bought respirators for five times the price, the breach of corruption. In the state where I live we buy respirators for half the price and renovate all that were broken.
I remember times ago we talked about (hydroxy) chloroquine. The president of Brazil took covid and because it was an early stage, he was treated using chloroquine. At the time, I remember well, it was treated as fake news; but now that WHO and China have adopted the use, fake news reporting has stopped.

The current judiciary in Brazil is pathetic. Ministers were placed by previous governments, they do not meet the population's desire, only their own interests. Ministers of justice judge, create laws, are victims if the population asks or criticizes them, and has them arrested. Harmonic independence of powers. Now the wave is 1984, Ministry of Truth, censure who is against them.

Like Trump or not, but he is one of the last bastions in this world, just like Israel that has always been reported to be evil, the villain in history.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2020, 10:35:06 PM »
The president of Brazil took covid and because it was an early stage, he was treated using chloroquine. At the time, I remember well, it was treated as fake news; but now that WHO and China have adopted the use, fake news reporting has stopped.

Fake news, the WHO has not adopted hydroxychloroquine: ABS-CBN News, posted at Sep 18 2020
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, as well as lopinavir-ritonavir, were among the investigational drugs included in the World Health Organization’s Solidarity Trial for COVID-19 treatment. However, they were removed from the trial after tests showed that they did now show positive effects for COVID-19 patients.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2020, 12:30:10 AM »
The shamelessness with which politicians steal is impressive. Something similar happens here. Spanish companies offer the government masks, latex gloves, respirators, etc. at a reasonable price, however the government buys it from China through intermediaries whose previous dedication to the covid had absolutely nothing to do with health, in many cases semi-ruined , but with relationships with the top government, for a much higher price. Any ill-wisher would say that the difference stays in the pocket of a few.

Regarding the confidential information of the covid, the same. Although in this case I wonder if they have any information. They haven't even allowed autopsies.

Here is a sum of ineptitude, malfeasance, greed and autocracy.

We still gain  :thumbsup:
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2020, 02:29:25 AM »
My fault, I am so ashamed.
I will report the fake news from the respective sites listed below to the authorities:

https://br.reuters.com/article/idBRKBN24B2JC-OBRWD
WHO (Mike Ryan) says hydroxychloroquine should only be used for Covid-19 under strict medical supervision
10-July-2020 - 2 months ago.

https://health.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/policy/who-warns-against-using-hydroxychloroquine-outside-clinical-trials/75858675
"Responding to question on hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine being used to treat COVID-19 patients in certain countries, Dr Michael Ryan, executive director of the WHO Health Emergencies Programme, told a press conference on Wednesday that, despite that both drugs are already licensed for many diseases, at this stage, they "have been as yet found to be effective in the treatment of COVID-19 or in the prophylaxis against coming down with the disease", Xinhua reported."

Let's check yours:
Fake news, the WHO has not adopted hydroxychloroquine: ABS-CBN News, posted at Sep 18 2020
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, as well as lopinavir-ritonavir, were among the investigational drugs included in the World Health Organization’s Solidarity Trial for COVID-19 treatment. However, they were removed from the trial after tests showed that they did now show positive effects for COVID-19 patients.

WHO - Here is the source !!!
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/transcripts/virtual-press-conference---17-june---covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=548bb249_2
"TJMany thanks. I have received a couple of texts from journalists who just want to clarify with Ana Maria about hydroxychloroquine. Dr Henao.AMHYes, thank you, Tarik. I'll try for a third time. The internal evidence from the Solidarity Discovery trial, the external evidence from the Recovery trial and the combined evidence from these large randomised trails, brought together suggest that hydroxychloroquine, when compared with the standard of care in the treatment of hospitalised COVID patients does not result in the reduction of the mortality of those patients.
00:50:49 Based on this analysis and on the review of the published evidence the executive group of the Solidarity/Recovery trial has met on two occasions and today we met with all the Pis. After deliberation they had concluded that the hydroxychloroquine arm will be stopped from the Solidarity trial.But I want to emphasise that this does not constitute a WHO policy, that this is not a WHO policy recommendation, this is the results from trials and that this does not apply to the use or the evaluation of hydroxychloroquine as post-exposure prophylaxis inpatients exposed to COVID. That's a different thing and what we are doing on the COOID-109 trial on randomisation for COVID patients but does not apply outside that and it doesn't constitute WHO policy."

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2020, 03:32:26 AM »
China benefits of stupid peoples, like a US president ?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2020, 03:57:26 AM »
hydroxychloroquine ... does not result in the reduction of the mortality
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After deliberation they had concluded that the hydroxychloroquine arm will be stopped from the Solidarity trial.

It looks pretty clear to me :cool: