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FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« on: November 13, 2012, 05:25:32 AM »
i prefer to keep the version of firefox and adobe flash that i have
however, they are making it impossible to do so
i wanted to offer feedback to the a-holes at firefux.....



at the adobe site, i get a message saying i have to have a newer version of firefux to install that

it's none of their business if i want to use an older version of something, assholes

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 05:40:24 AM »
Hi dave,

Yes, it should be the user's right to choose and use an older version.

Maybe I am wrong but a possible solution is to use a portable version of FireFox, maybe the latest one. This one will help you to solve some issues.

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 06:51:34 AM »
Hi Dave,

I fully agree. Adobe is clearly the World's most incompetent software company. Every time they promise that the latest bug has been fixed, every time it's just a lie.

For some months they have been "fighting" an incredibly challenging problem: When Flash is active, the FF window may lose the focus, and even go to the background, pushing the previous FF window to the foreground. It's a nasty behaviour, it drives me mad, and not only me. Fortunately, today I found a "workaround" on the net (by ooncraz):

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Windows Vista/7:... 5. open c:\windows\SYSTEM32\macromed\flash\mms.cfg 64-bit Windows ...5. open c:\windows\SYSWOW64\macromed\flash\mms.cfg 6. Add the line as follows: ProtectedMode=0 7. Save. 8. Restart firefox. 9. Problem quickly resolved.

Tested - it works.

P.S.: More detail on this Adobe bug: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2485553&start=17

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 09:22:14 AM »
my current plan is to use IE if i want to see flash content - lol
there are a couple FF plug-ins that i appreciate
but - i am eliminating as many as possible

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 05:37:21 AM »
Hi Dave,

What is your opinion about other browsers like K-Meleon and SRWare Iron?

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 06:35:00 AM »
well - i started using firefox, mainly for yahoo games
they have some ads on their pages, which are pretty annoying
some of the ads are flash type ads that even change the focus or
otherwise interfere with the game table windows, which are pop-ups (all java applets)
if you are typing in the chat window, and a flash ad changes - poof no more focus
it can close your game table window - which means you lose your seat
it has caused me (and a number of other people) to actually lose points
because the opponent locks you out and forces forfeit

in this image, i eliminated the ads - i think i was using IE for this one...



but, the space where the ads are can be freed up by using firefox with the adblock add-in



as far as i know, firefox with adblock is the only way to do that

at any rate - i resoved the issue....
i uninstalled everything adobe (incl acrobat), sun java, and firefox
then, re-installed and was able to make it work
i had an older version of flash stashed away
if i install an updated version of flash, i get the "you need a newer version of firefox"
once you get there, something gets "locked" in the firefox settings files and you can't undo it

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 07:56:36 AM »
as far as i know, firefox with adblock is the only way to do that

Most ads come from a handful of sites.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts is a very interesting file. Since I improved it a little bit, my favourite sites look much tidier :biggrin:

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 10:41:56 AM »
I agree with JJ, the HOSTS file is the way to go.  Visit this site: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm, and use that hosts file, or add the entries to yours.  My hosts file has over 16240 entries blocking everything from known ad sites, tracking sites, malware/virus call home sites, etc...  Be sure to follow the "special" instructions for your OS, as a hosts file with many entries can slow you down while also using the DNS cache.
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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 11:48:45 AM »
i understand the hosts file pretty well, i'd say - lol
mine is about 618 Kb   :P

but, if you look at the two pictures in the above post, you will see that
redirecting a url to the local host is not the same as a good ad-blocker

i was just doing some testing on yahoo games,
which i consider the litmus test for a browser, because it has very quirky java applets and flash together

it seems i will finally have to give up on firefox 3.6 - lol
now, the question is, how far up do i have to go
each version becomes more and more bloated and slower

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 12:16:42 PM »
Hi Dave,

Why don't you give the latest Firefox (or Opera) a try? I'm using Firefox 17 and as far I can tell, it's pretty fast.
Bloated? Maybe.
Slower? Not really sure about this. Never done browser benchmarks. :P

Chrome may be has the fastest JS engine, and better HTML 5 support, but sadly it's quite memory hog.

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 01:06:26 PM »
i am thinking the lowest version that works is probably best - lol
hopefully, the plug-ins i like have been updated that far

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 11:37:45 PM »
Have a good old software called "proxomitron", very nice software. It sit betwen the net and the browser. With it you can filter many thing that will go to the browser, and you can change too, doing your own personalized page being viewed, block ads, disable counters, javascript, ... . The software is not actual, dates from 2004 the last version, before the author died. I have tested under windows XP and worked, but a bit knowledge of html, headers is necessary. What is nice is that this software have an undocumented function called "EXEC", where you can call a program like command line. The last version that I have download was done by "sidki", many scripts and filters.

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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2012, 05:52:38 AM »
Using the portable version of browsers like FireFox and Chrome is a good solution as they help to keep clean your computer.

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Emergency patch fixes Adobe Flash flaw
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2015, 02:22:25 AM »
Adobe is clearly the World's most incompetent software company. Every time they promise that the latest bug has been fixed, every time it's just a lie.

Congrats, Adobe makes headlines in BBC news: Emergency patch fixes Adobe Flash flaw
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Re: FireFux and Adobe Flash Updates
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 04:38:55 AM »
Firefox has been heading in this direction for a bit.  I think it has to do with commercial pressure and they are trying to make yahoo the default search engine...Always about the money,most likely jumped in for funding with flash...Always goggles browser,or one of the forks on source forge.

Human truth:money always wins out,no matter how free you want to be.