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Ravi Kiran

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Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« on: October 28, 2021, 09:07:44 PM »
 
 Hi everyone out there. I have a question about compatibility of
 Windows OS previous and latest Versions of windows OS. I'm
 dedicated user of masm32 assembler and I'm currently
 running Windows 7 x64 with 12 GB RAM. My goal is to design
 Network Security and anti-Virus software using purely
 low-level coding and mixed C and Assembly language. Does
 masm32 SDK binaries Maintain compatibility with Windows
 10 and the latest Windows 11 OSs in the future? Any app that I
 design with masm32 sdk and Visual studio maintains
 compatibility with Windows 10 and windows11 if necessary I'll
 upgrade my OS with windows 10 because my Windows 7 box seem 
 to be outdated compared to current hardware And software 
 standards and is definitely a thing of past. Is it better to keep
 my current Windows-7 x64 OS or to upgrade it to at least Windows
 10  to maintain compatibility with present-day apps. There Is too
 much info out there in the internet which causes a lot of confusion
 and no guarantee of accuracy and don't know whom
 to trust and whom not to.

 So far this forum is amazing and it'd be better if this
 forum opens Discussions on computer-Science as a whole
 and not  just confined to windows Assembly language.

 I'm a dedicated member of this forum and I'll never post
 garbage and I'm currently an Electrical Engineering graduate
 highly interested in Computer Science though I'm a novice
 now.
 


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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2021, 12:52:40 AM »
Hi,

Generally speaking ASM is not recommended an easy programming language for students or beginners.

Also normally any old Win7 program written in C or ASM / MASM will run on Win10 and Win11 as it is unchanged.
Even Win95 programs will run on Win10 and Win11.

However the opposite in NOT true.

Programs written for Win10 or Win11 (using new API or SDK's) will not run on older OS like Win7 unless you take extra measures (do not use newer APIs)
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2021, 12:39:30 PM »
  Hi everyone out there. I have a question about compatibility
New processors have a compatibility with old processors. Intel tried Itanium, but Amd gain that game for a while.
The marketing understood that this is betters, instead to force programmers to rewrite everything from zero.
So, from O.S. point of view, it's necessary check if function being called in your program is present in "new" ones, if not, bad to you, rewrite that procedure, if changes was drastically, new properties/objected oriented code changed drastically, and you need adapt yourself.

To anti-virus I recomend "The little black book of computer viruses"; ms-dos side. Exist a The giant Black books that I  do not read, but if follows first will be good. That book dont't tell you about malicies, only infections.
Please, understand, good and evil have diferent point of views. A good thing can be bad to othters.
Well, whats your notion of hero!?
I'd rather be this ambulant metamorphosis than to have that old opinion about everything

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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM »
  Hi everyone out there. I have a question about compatibility
New processors have a compatibility with old processors. Intel tried Itanium, but Amd gain that game for a while.
The marketing understood that this is betters, instead to force programmers to rewrite everything from zero.
So, from O.S. point of view, it's necessary check if function being called in your program is present in "new" ones, if not, bad to you, rewrite that procedure, if changes was drastically, new properties/objected oriented code changed drastically, and you need adapt yourself.

To anti-virus I recomend "The little black book of computer viruses"; ms-dos side. Exist a The giant Black books that I  do not read, but if follows first will be good. That book dont't tell you about malicies, only infections.
Please, understand, good and evil have diferent point of views. A good thing can be bad to othters.
Well, whats your notion of hero!?
I don't want to become a hero and change the world.
I've seen a lot of movies all over the world and finally
realized it's a waste of  time.I just want to protect 
my self from online frauds and malware. Information
overload is a huge concern all over the world these
days and it's very hard to separate fact from fiction.
I'll assume this forum is an exception. I can't afford
commercial security and anti-virus softwares and I
have only a faint idea of designing my own security
Software and contribute something to open source
community. I know it's a huge challenge to face.
anyway thanks for your recommendation. I'm  a
newbie to computer science and all I know is
about electrical circuit analysis and network
theory. Even though computers evolved from
Electrical and Electronics engineering they've
Become extremely complicated and wonderful
than anything imaginable. Who sticks to old
Electrical theory anymore in 21st century and is
not properly paying off.

Garbage in 21st century is a huge concern.
Garbage is not just confined to internet
in the form of information overload. It has
Spread it's wings even in the real world
as a pun in the form of corona virus and
other form of flus and other biological
viruses. We have to do something to
Protect ourselves.

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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2021, 02:41:43 PM »
If you want decent AV, look for the Kaspersky KVRT.EXE. You download it each time you want to scan your computer, run it then delete it as it will be out of date the next day.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2021, 08:55:39 PM »
Currently there are not so many computer viruses, but malware, trojan horses, exploits, rootkits.
Computer viruses are based on biological viruses, being born, growing, procreating and dying. A host (O.S., programs, ...) is needed to stay innocuous and processed. When processed, it will take an action.
To catch a virus we play bait, like fishing. A bait program will be modified internally. Comparing the uninfected program with the infected one, we have the code or what the infected part will do. From this you can create a pattern, a database with the characteristics and codes/functions used, and build an AV.
There is a war between codes; some viruses infect specific AV's, others include garbage data from memory or hard disk when infecting in order to try to pass for a mutant, in an attempt to make the analysis difficult or visualize the pattern, others use self-modifying replicating codes.

What I learned, unfortunately, is that a malicious program always achieves its goal. If the target is just a machine, it will succeed; and it will propagate to create false leads.
I only know the theory. The best anti-virus is the user.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2021, 09:41:36 PM »
When I asked about the notion of hero, it was to find out about your intention.
A hero begins by recognizing his weaknesses, seeks a mentor, evolves, struggles internally over good and evil, achieves redemption. (Star wars, superman, lord of rings, ...).
Currently, they created a heroine in star wars, she doesn't have a story, she doesn't need a guide, she doesn't accept help, she doesn't have weaknesses, she pilots the aircraft better than anyone, she fixes the aircraft, evil only exists outside of her body, she is 100% perfect.

This is the current stereotype of heroes.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2021, 10:58:59 PM »
When I asked about the notion of hero, it was to find out about your intention.
A hero begins by recognizing his weaknesses, seeks a mentor, evolves, struggles internally over good and evil, achieves redemption. (Star wars, superman, lord of rings, ...).
Currently, they created a heroine in star wars, she doesn't have a story, she doesn't need a guide, she doesn't accept help, she doesn't have weaknesses, she pilots the aircraft better than anyone, she fixes the aircraft, evil only exists outside of her body, she is 100% perfect.

This is the current stereotype of heroes.
You are right sir. One thing I'd say Movies distract us from ground reality. No Entertainment at all is my policy from now. I'll never allow
TV in to my home. While I watch YouTube occasionally. I'm a tech
Enthusiast who wants to know everything about technology. The
World has changed a lot in around 25 years with the Advent of internet. Many tech-ebooks are freely available on the internet. But
There is a darkside of internet. Information overload, Pornography, malware,spyware ,ransomware etc etc . We live in this
world only to protect ourselves and our loved ones. There is more
Load of information garbage in this world than we ever imagined.

I live lonely in my home with my parents and absolutely no friends
and no strings attached. Recently I've found the ebooks about the
invention of TV and it's colour and black and white standards. I've found them interesting but it's tech is hard to digest.

This forum is very helpful for me. I'll download any good ebooks
and opensource softwares recommend only by the members of this
forum.

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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2021, 01:12:37 AM »
I agree with your words sir Ravi Kiran.

Usually when talking about troubleshooting you need some tools.
For windows, books (Mark Russinovich, windows internals) and tools created by SysInternals is recommended.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-blog-archive/hunting-down-and-killing-ransomware/ba-p/724372
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/
http://www.markrussinovich.com/

The SysInternals company was acquired by Microsoft. I suppose this company's old forum with good discussions can still be found on the internet using some time machine.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2021, 02:51:58 AM »
The sysinternals stuff is still OK, while setting up this new box, I just downloaded the current version and its all there and works the same.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2021, 01:53:24 AM »
When I asked about the notion of hero, it was to find out about your intention.
A hero begins by recognizing his weaknesses, seeks a mentor, evolves, struggles internally over good and evil, achieves redemption. (Star wars, superman, lord of rings, ...).
Currently, they created a heroine in star wars, she doesn't have a story, she doesn't need a guide, she doesn't accept help, she doesn't have weaknesses, she pilots the aircraft better than anyone, she fixes the aircraft, evil only exists outside of her body, she is 100% perfect.

This is the current stereotype of heroes.

I'll sure to become a hero in the future because of reason. What I hate
the most is the movies production and their stereotypes in this present day world. I don't know anything about other country people
and their likes and hates. All most all people on our country are TV
Addicts and movie freaks. They'll watch any movie all over the world
and never stop discussions about celebs and movie actors. These
Celebs in 21st century are pigs and s**t-Rich. They are making more
Money and we always remain poor.

Coming to the distinction of good and evil. evil is uncertain and it
is the way it has to be. The thing I hate the most about movies is
their stereotypes. You make a person an embodiment of evil and
Create a villain and create a hero to kill him and destroy him completely. How is that legit. Now a days even a heroine is a hero.
And we like sheep watch movies even though we Know that the movie industry whereever it is in the world is a Big business. Try to live in reality. You are constantly destroying
Your Senses by feeding garbage in to your mind and these movies
are the trigger points and the root of these garbage.

I remember that in 2009 in Hollywood they made a movie 2012
Claiming the world will come to an end according to Mayan calender
Nothing happened in year 2012 and the world goes on. ( The last time
I had TV in my home is 2014 after that no TV in my home until now
and never will be and I'm using internet ever since Thanks to 4G
Network in countryside areas)

In my opinion ignorance is the evil which hides reality from imagination.

Coming to internet what I hate the most is graffitti and ads.
Ads are everywhere in the internet. Graffiti plays wit Our Senses. It should not be encouraged in any form and should be eradicated with iron hand. I don't know much about graphics Programming now.

The genuine method to program a computer is through command
line and purely character-based. We can create nice GUIs starting
From command line and a nice text editor like qeditor that hutch has
Created given enough amount of time. Even many softwares claiming to be coming from Top-notch companies are nonetheless bloatware.

One thing that bothers me for a long time is the people's craze for
Apple products like iPhone ,iPad and MacBook pros in this today's
World. I've never used an Apple product so far and I think I never
Afford them in the future. What's so special about apple products and what's in it that windows don't have. People's craze for Apple products all over the world is making me feel depressed and is really
Bothering me. All I have is a Windows PC and my computer is sacred for me. If I'm a professional Assembly programmer I can create a OS
On my own given enough help just using Intel Architecture and processor.

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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2021, 03:28:56 AM »
Currently, they created a heroine in star wars, she doesn't have a story, she doesn't need a guide, she doesn't accept help, she doesn't have weaknesses, she pilots the aircraft better than anyone, she fixes the aircraft, evil only exists outside of her body, she is 100% perfect.

Amazing movies.  :thumbsup:

This is the current stereotype of heroes.

Not exactly  :biggrin:: they are SuperHeroes because they have SuperPowers.

Heroes are persons with extreme human capabilities that allow them to take advantage of magical devices.

Usually we call heroes to ordinary people, just because their noble actions resulted in a high cost for them.  :eusa_boohoo:
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2021, 08:00:12 AM »
About badness and goodness being relative was the fact that you report the desire to keep your safety. Anyone who knows how to create an anti-virus knows how to make a virus. Honestly, this is the reasons of my question about hero.
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>-Create a villain and create a hero to kill him and destroy him completely.
In the first episodes of Star Wars, the son, who is the protagonist of good, beats the father, who is the protagonist of evil, but at the last moment he redeems himself, he does not kill him. At this moment, Dart Vader regains the notion of goodness and returns from darkness to light.
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>I remember that in 2009 in Hollywood they made a movie 2012 Claiming the world will come to an end according to Mayan calender.
The name of this is "predictive programming". Something like;
What youre doing? I'm training. Next day, same question, same answer, and this goes for a week or year. When that really happens, they aren't trainig, we don't ask anymore. Mainstream media uses this a lot.
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>In my opinion ignorance is the evil which hides reality from imagination.
I fully agree. A children that have 3 to 10 years old don't know the difference between reality and imagination. They are afraid of the dark, they wet the bed, they have imaginary friends. This is one reasons of my fight against gender ideology to childrens. To teenagers, I don't care, they should be mature.
One example is facebook, changed name to "meta", from "metaverse". They will insert more imagination than reality in persons.
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>Coming to internet what I hate the most is graffitti and ads.
I never have seen one ads in BBS's (internet grandfather). These ads/propaganda are generally scripts that can be cancealed. In 1998 exists a program named "proxomitron", intention was block propaganda/images/what we don't want being sent to our computer. In that years, yahoo have a lot of propaganda while google only discrete propaganda. The winner was google. Times changes, ... .
Imagine see a movie/novel without propaganda these days; well, it's more easy think that legislative will work to remove laws instead of create new ones.

Repetition is other way of predictive programming. These days, if I open a newspaper, I probably will see the word "specialists", not "specialists" names. In science tabs, I will not read really science but new products as you told.
And exists too subliminar messages, neurolinguistic programming, Rapport (seduction art to conquer others, mirroring), ... .

Not only you, but I fight too against "human programming", and in a snap of a finger the mental trigger is pulled. Like post-modern parasite.
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Re: Windows 10 & 11 Compatibility
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2021, 08:03:59 AM »
Not exactly  :biggrin:: they are SuperHeroes because they have SuperPowers.
Monomith, Hero's Journey, Campbell.

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Usually we call heroes to ordinary people, just because their noble actions resulted in a high cost for them.  :eusa_boohoo:
In a city exist 2 bad guys, one really bad while other so so bad. One kill other. He will be a hero, ever being bad because killed other bad guy.
I'd rather be this ambulant metamorphosis than to have that old opinion about everything