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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2022, 06:58:35 AM »
@Mikhael
I blame Stalin and Hitler
Follow the money and you'll find the real culprits.
Both Hitler and Stalin were mere pawns, who without the money.. would have no power.  :wink2:
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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2022, 05:05:35 AM »
This is one of those philosophical questions that can be put in the same category as the following "Can predestination and free will coexist?"

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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2022, 08:13:39 AM »
Follow the money and you'll find the real culprits.
Both Hitler and Stalin were mere pawns, who without the money.. would have no power.  :wink2:

I think it's an extreme stretch to say they were "pawns".

OTOH, they certainly did have their enablers. Perhaps that's what you really meant to write.

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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2022, 08:29:43 AM »
They were different animals, Hitler was able to raise money via industrialists in Germany and dragged germany out of the great depression years before most other countries where Stalin was a communist party machine man who climbed up through the ranks and eventually became the head honcho.

Its probably fair to say that neither were nice guys.  :tongue:
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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2022, 10:13:10 AM »
I think it's an extreme stretch to say they were "pawns".

Agreed.

They were different animals, Hitler was able to raise money via industrialists in Germany and dragged germany out of the great depression years before most other countries where Stalin was a communist party machine man who climbed up through the ranks and eventually became the head honcho.

Its probably fair to say that neither were nice guys.  :tongue:

Agreed. Stalin's case is a bit different ("party machine"), but Hitler and Mussolini were never pawns. They first mobilised great masses of people, and because of that became interesting for Big Money. "Pawn" is simply the wrong word. They were leaders, the exact opposite of a pawn. Today we have Salvini and Meloni, but that's yet another story.

One could debate whether "pawn" is the right term for Sleepy Joe. Without a Billion dollars of donations for his election campaign, he would never have become POTUS. Roosevelt's MIC has its hands on all recent American presidents, of course. Some tried to be somewhat independent (Carter, Obama, Trump?), but with a "debt" of one Billion US$, no POTUS is free to decide anything.

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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2022, 09:22:54 AM »
Actually, Biden's a different case. (I'm in the USA! USA!, btw.)

I've been saying since last year that nobody voted for Joe Biden; they voted against Trump.

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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2022, 09:27:26 AM »
I always like Joe Biden but he is looking like he is past it and that other thing he is saddled with as VP has mastered the art of not only putting her foot in her mouth but managing to put both feet in her mouth.
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Re: Does love exist?
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2022, 10:07:24 AM »
The problem is the Democratic Party's inability to come up with valid candidates that people would actually want to vote for. That was the problem in 2016, not the made-up story of Russian (or Wikileaks') meddling in the election.

Like the old saying goes, if god had intended for us to vote, he would have given us candidates.