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Miscellaneous => 16 bit DOS Programming => Topic started by: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 03:11:00 AM

Title: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 03:11:00 AM
I've installed the gcc for DOS inside a virtual machine. It works fine. But I need a good DOS editor for the sources. Has anyone an idea?

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Vortex on November 09, 2014, 04:05:16 AM
SET's Editor :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/setedit/
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 04:36:44 AM
Erol,

Quote from: Vortex on November 09, 2014, 04:05:16 AM
SET's Editor :

http://sourceforge.net/projects/setedit/

thank you for the link. It comes with sources, but one has to patch the LIBC for re-compiling under DOS. That's a bit awkward.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 09, 2014, 05:27:28 AM
Hi Gunther,

   I use the WordPerfect Programmer's Editor.  A package with it
zipped up was at a university's site.  If Google does not find it,
I can attach it here, or I could sent it to you.  If you ever used
WordPerfect 5.x for DOS, you will know how it feels to use it.

Regards,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 06:44:04 AM
Hi Steve,

Quote from: FORTRANS on November 09, 2014, 05:27:28 AM
   I use the WordPerfect Programmer's Editor.  A package with it
zipped up was at a university's site.  If Google does not find it,
I can attach it here, or I could sent it to you.  If you ever used
WordPerfect 5.x for DOS, you will know how it feels to use it.

thank you for the hint. The better way is to send it via mail, if that's possible.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 09, 2014, 07:16:51 AM
Hi,

   I am not at home now, but here is a link.  If it does not work
I will send it to later.  And I have the original documentation
if you have any questions.

http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WordPerfect_Editor

Regards,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Thank you, Steve. The link works fine. :t

Gunther

Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: dedndave on November 10, 2014, 07:28:32 AM
I used PC-Write by Bob Wallace
Shareware - I think I had version 2.70
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 10, 2014, 08:40:13 AM
Dave,

Quote from: dedndave on November 10, 2014, 07:28:32 AM
I used PC-Write by Bob Wallace
Shareware - I think I had version 2.70

how much is it?

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 10, 2014, 09:47:00 AM
Quote from: Gunther on November 09, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Thank you, Steve. The link works fine.

Hi Gunther,

   Two hints that took me a very long time to find out.  Use the
F6 key to copy white space from the line above to speed up
indenting.  Invoke the editor with the filename on the command
line with the /L switch.

ed /l filename

Exit normally, and then the next time you want to edit the file,
use the following.

ed /l

And you will have the cursor at the position it was when you
exited before.

   And you can create your own help files.  I have made a few
with some programming trivia that I can't remember from year
to year.

Regards,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 10, 2014, 11:38:19 PM
Thank you for the hints, Steve. That's helpful.  :t

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: dedndave on November 11, 2014, 12:15:33 AM
PC-Write was free
for a donation of 10 or 20 USD, you get rid of a splash screen
or debug it and get rid of it   :badgrin:
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 11, 2014, 07:07:05 AM
Hi Dave,

Quote from: dedndave on November 11, 2014, 12:15:33 AM
PC-Write was free
for a donation of 10 or 20 USD, you get rid of a splash screen
or debug it and get rid of it   :badgrin:

thank you for the information. I'll search inside the net.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: dedndave on November 12, 2014, 01:39:26 AM
I liked PC-Write because it would perform a lot of great operations
many of them are still not available on newer editors
things like block operations, etc
I used DEBUG and PC-Write to disassemble many programs, including most of DOS   :P
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 12, 2014, 04:35:07 AM
Hi Dave,

Quote from: dedndave on November 12, 2014, 01:39:26 AM
I liked PC-Write because it would perform a lot of great operations
many of them are still not available on newer editors
things like block operations, etc
I used DEBUG and PC-Write to disassemble many programs, including most of DOS   :P

is there a 64-KB limit?

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: dedndave on November 12, 2014, 07:21:23 AM
I don't remember, Gunther - been many years since I used it
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 12, 2014, 08:31:08 AM
Dave,

Quote from: dedndave on November 12, 2014, 07:21:23 AM
I don't remember, Gunther - been many years since I used it

never mind, I'll figure it out.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 12, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
Hi Gunther,

   If worse things happen, you can always fall back to EDLIN.EXE.
It was included with Windows, at least up to XP.  At least it's small.

Cheers,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 13, 2014, 04:25:33 AM
Steve,

Quote from: FORTRANS on November 12, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
   If worse things happen, you can always fall back to EDLIN.EXE.

but EDLIN is a real torment, indeed.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: carlos on November 26, 2014, 03:02:11 PM

When I worked in DOS, I searched for a text editor for years, until I found QEDIT , now the semware editor jr (TSEjr) is small, FAST and uses all conventional memory (up to 570 or so kb),

you still could get it here http://www.semware.com/ (http://www.semware.com/)

hope you find it useful
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 26, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
Hi carlos,

thank you for the link. It seems to be shareware, isn't it?

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: carlos on November 28, 2014, 10:44:30 AM

Yes, it is, and wort every penny, it may be moot in this gigabyte drives era, but when you had only two 720kb floppies to hold DOS, editor, compiler and sources, it's tiny size was a life saver :)
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 28, 2014, 08:23:56 PM
Quote from: carlos on November 28, 2014, 10:44:30 AM
Yes, it is, and wort every penny, it may be moot in this gigabyte drives era, but when you had only two 720kb floppies to hold DOS, editor, compiler and sources, it's tiny size was a life saver :)

Yes, that's true. How much is it? Is the editor under current development?

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 29, 2014, 12:15:46 AM
Quote from: Gunther on November 13, 2014, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: FORTRANS on November 12, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
   If worse things happen, you can always fall back to EDLIN.EXE.

but EDLIN is a real torment, indeed.

Hi Gunther,

   Indeed.  I can remember using it, even if I no longer remember
what, when, or why.  Must have been an odd situation.  Similar
experience to, though not as extreme, as using vi on Unix/Linux.
At least there I remember why I used it.

   Another comment about ED.EXE from WP, the F3 key is the help
key.  Hitting F3 twice shows what other functions are associated
with the function keys.  Should have mentioned that before.  A
long ago I wrote a small tutorial, but can't seem to find it now.

   Have you any comments or come to any conclusions up to now
about any editor(s)?

Regards,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: Gunther on November 30, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
Hi Steve,

Quote from: FORTRANS on November 29, 2014, 12:15:46 AM
   Have you any comments or come to any conclusions up to now
about any editor(s)?

I'm trying different editors under DOS and DOS emulations. I'll let you know about the results.

Gunther
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: FORTRANS on November 30, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
Hi Gunther,

Quote from: Gunther on November 30, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
I'll let you know about the results.

   Looking forward to it.

Cheers,

Steve N.
Title: Re: DOS Editor
Post by: ggmasm32 on November 13, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
I have been using editor file browser called "dos navigator" from Russian origin. It used to be called Norton commander, it is one of the best, simple no bull shit program and allow me to work at a speed of light or close to it. I had some preference with npp but persistent update reminder  message specially after installation and launch got better if me so I don't use much.