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Linux assembly for a total noob.

Started by zedd151, August 06, 2024, 11:13:30 PM

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zedd151

 :biggrin:
I have wondered how would a Windows user start to write assembly programs for Linux.
Linux OS needed, certainly - to run the program that is.

But what I want to know is what the programming environment would look like.
What development programs there are, debugging tools, maybe some Linux specific reference materials.
Maybe even tips on the Linux operating system as well. Which one, there are many different 'flavors'?

Serious replies only please, from those that know what is needed.  :smiley:

jack

#1
for a beginner like myself, I would do the following
if you don't have the sasm IDE and nasm then install them
if you are a Linux beginner then open the terminal and issue these commands
sudo apt update
sudo apt dist-upgrade
sudo apt install nasm
sudo apt install sasm

some nasm examples https://cs.lmu.edu/~ray/notes/nasmtutorial/
you may need to set the sasm preferences to nasm and x64

zedd151

 :eusa_clap: Thanks jack.

Eeks!  :dazzled:  What have I gotten myself into? Seems it will be a steep learning curve to be sure. I will have to set aside a few weekends to investigate all of this, if I decide to explore this further.  :smiley:

Can you recommend a Linux distro?


zedd151


jack

OpenSuse is good too, but has a different package manager

NoCforMe

Quote from: zedd151 on August 06, 2024, 11:13:30 PMWhat development programs there are, debugging tools, maybe some Linux specific reference materials.

Yeah, good question. Specifically:
  • What assembler?
  • What linker?
  • What debugger?
  • What librarian?
  • What other programming tools? (make, etc.)
And while we're at it, what editors are good for writing code? (Please, please, please don't say vi!)
Assembly language programming should be fun. That's why I do it.

Vortex

#7
QuoteUASM 2.56 (Linux 64bit)    27/10/2022    uasm256_linux64.zip    64bit Linux Executable (GCC)

https://www.terraspace.co.uk/uasm.html#p2

stoo23

#8
Quotesudo apt update
sudo apt dist-upgrade
sudo apt install nasm
sudo apt install sasm
It should be mentioned that not all Linux distro's use 'apt' as mentioned above.
Different Distro's, use different 'Package Managers' depending on what initial distribution they are based on.
That said, the process is basically the same, although some distro's also provide a Graphical interface as well, like SuSE.

SuSE was the very first linux distro' I tried, way back and whilst I haven't played with it in a while, it is a very mature and stable product and the founders,
are Zappa fans,..  :smiley:  :thumbsup:

I also liked Zorin OS but can also suggest and recommend Porteus as well  :smiley:

sinsi


stoo23

QuoteAnd while we're at it, what editors are good for writing code? (Please, please, please don't say vi!)
:wink2:
Well, whilst Not a programmer, I am aware of a few Editors,.. NOT vi / vim etc  :joking:

Kate
Kate stands for KDE Advanced Text Editor.
KDE is a desktop environment (graphical interface) for Linux.
The KDE desktop isn't required to use Kate – you can install it on Windows, Linux, and Mac.
Kate allows you to edit multiple documents at the same time.
It supports color-coded syntax, customization, and plugins.

Geany
Geany is a relatively popular text editor and is one of the best Notepad++ alternatives for Linux.
It supports various programming languages (with cross-platform support).
It is fast, powerful, and lightweight.
Easily customizable
Various plugins available

There is also Visual Studio Code, which may or may not accord with your general outlook on life ... lol It may have issues depending on your distro'.
An interesting and similarly powerful alternative to Visual Studio might be VSCodium, definitely worth a look  :thumbsup:

jack

#11
Some beginner examples of using nasm on Linux NASM Tutorial

I am familiar with the geany IDE and use it for all my fun programming exercises.
I had posted a recommendation for geany to experiment with assembly programming in Linux but I ran into some strange problems which I was unable to resolve at the moment, so I withdrew that post, and recommended sasm instead which did a bit better but it has problems of it's own, for one, no matter how hard I looked for the executable I couldn't find it anywhere.

The examples in the tutorial mentioned above work fine with geany if some minor details are taken care of
if you create a Build command in geany with the following command the examples work
nasm -felf64 "%f" && gcc -no-pie -o %e %e.o -lc
but the gcc compiler is not happy unless you change this
        global  _start

        section .text
_start:

to this
        global  main

        section .note.GNU-stack progbits
        section .text
main:

As for what distro' to use, I like Zorin but OpenSuse ThumbleWeed has the more recent dev tools

jack

here is a series of 13 videos on 64-bit Linux programming using yasm COS284, about 14 hours altogether

bugthis

Quote from: zedd151 on August 06, 2024, 11:13:30 PMMaybe even tips on the Linux operating system as well.

A) Linux kernel system calls is all you need to know. Everything else can be derived from that.
https://gpages.juszkiewicz.com.pl/syscalls-table/syscalls.html

You want print some text on a 64 bit x86 CPU, do the following:

1. Look for syscall write() in the list linked above or read
man 2 syscallsPut its syscall number in register RAX.
You should also read
man 2 write, so that you know, what is needed next.
 
2. Set file handle to stdout, which means RDI must be 1.

3. Set address of string in RSI.

4. Set number of bytes of string in RDX.

5. Do the syscall.

Example:

; For an 64 bit x86 machine compile this with:
; nasm -felf64 hello64.asm && ld -m elf_x86_64 hello64.o -o hello64.bin

          global    _start

section   .text
  _start:   mov       rax, 1               ; system call write()
            mov       rdi, 1               ; file handle 1 is stdout
            mov       rsi, hello           ; set address of string in rsi
            mov       rdx, 13              ; number of bytes
            syscall                        ; do syscall

            mov       rax, 60              ; setup system call for exit()
            xor       rdi, rdi             ; set return value to 0
            syscall                        ; do syscall

section   .data
  hello:    db        "Hello, World", 10      ; note the newline (10) at the end

B) Linux supports various computer architectures.

For this reason, it makes sense to always write high-level language code, e.g. in C or C++, in addition to assembly code, which can then be used alternatively for other platforms. To do this, use the preprocessor of C or C++. If you want to use another high-level language, e.g. ZIG programming language, find out how to do it there.

vitsoft

You could also download EuroAssembler, save the following example as "hello.asm" and create executable programs for 32 bits and 64 bits at once
with a simple command euroasm hello.asm

        EUROASM CPU=x64

HelloL32 PROGRAM Format=ELFX, Entry=Main:, Width=32 ; HelloL32.exe works in 32-bit Linux.
 Main:    MOV EAX,4             ; Kernel operation sys_write=4.
          MOV EBX,1             ; File descriptor of the standard output (console).
          MOV ECX,Message       ; Address of the message.
          MOV EDX,SIZE# Message ; Size of the message.
          INT 0x80              ; Invoke the kernel.
          MOV EAX,1             ; Kernel operation sys_exit=1.
          XOR EBX,EBX           ; Returned errorlevel=0.
          INT 0x80              ; Invoke the kernel.
 Message: DB "Hello, world of %^Width bits in Linux!",10
         ENDPROGRAM HelloL32

HelloL64 PROGRAM Format=ELFX, Entry=Main:, Width=64 ; HelloL64.exe works in 64-bit Linux.
 Main:    MOV RAX,1             ; Kernel operation sys_write=1.
          MOV RDI,1             ; File descriptor of the standard output (console).
          LEA RSI,[Message]     ; Address of the message.
          MOV RDX,SIZE# Message ; Size of the message.
          SYSCALL               ; Invoke the kernel.
          MOV RAX,60            ; Kernel operation sys_exit=60.
          XOR EDI,EDI           ; Returned errorlevel=0.
          SYSCALL               ; Invoke the kernel.
 Message: DB "Hello, world of %^Width bits in Linux!",10
         ENDPROGRAM HelloL64