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Title: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: Magnum on January 29, 2014, 03:23:32 AM
The attached file has some characters that I can not figure out how they were inserted.

Right before and after "as is" are some characters that are not on my keyboard.

They are 93h and 94h.

So, how were they made ?

Qeditor displays those chars as a "box" but other editors display them correctly.

Thanks,
                 Andy
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: TWell on January 29, 2014, 03:44:11 AM
""
Alt + 0147 or 0147 from numpad ?
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: dedndave on January 29, 2014, 05:13:13 AM
they are probably Russian keys for double quotes (notice the slant is different)   :P
replace them with 22h characters
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: jj2007 on January 29, 2014, 05:31:49 AM
Ordinary German or whatever quotes...
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: dedndave on January 29, 2014, 05:35:47 AM
i opened it with HxD
the left one is slanted top left to bottom right and the right one is slanted the other way
the normal double quotes on the US keyboard are straight up and down   :P
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: Magnum on January 30, 2014, 07:10:05 AM
Quote from: dedndave on January 29, 2014, 05:13:13 AM
they are probably Russian keys for double quotes (notice the slant is different)   :P
replace them with 22h characters

You are probably right, only a keyboard with those two different quotes could make those characters.

Andy
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: dedndave on January 30, 2014, 07:26:16 AM
as TWell suggested, you can make any ASCII char except NUL with the keyboard
hold down the ALT key, enter the decimal ASCII value on the 10-key pad, release the ALT key
Alt-147
Alt-148
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: Magnum on January 30, 2014, 02:34:19 PM
Here is a Russian keyboard, they have the same double quotes as U.S. keyboards.
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: FORTRANS on January 31, 2014, 12:26:04 AM
Hi,

   The two quote marks seem to be one artifact of Microsoft
programs.  Word and PowerPoint (at least at one time) would
change the plain ASCII quotes around some text into a pair of
open and close quotes.  Google Groups also seem to have a lot
of the open and close quotes in the postings.  That may be due
to the browser used, or their user interface.  A real pain in any
case.

Cheers,

Steve N.
Title: Re: How did 93h and 94h inserted into a text document
Post by: jj2007 on January 31, 2014, 03:32:56 AM
Quote from: FORTRANS on January 31, 2014, 12:26:04 AM
Word and PowerPoint (at least at one time) would
change the plain ASCII quotes around some text into a pair of
open and close quotes.

MS Word still does that, of course. Open any book, and look at the quotes. Or see reply #3 for a sample. French books use «other» quotes ;-)