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Miscellaneous => The Orphanage => Topic started by: shankle on February 09, 2015, 12:52:17 AM

Title: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: shankle on February 09, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
I haven't got over puking over Windows 8 yet and now I'm going to run
out of puke for Windows 10..... What to do......
They just can't seem to stop cramming things down our throat.
If it wasn't for the difficulty of writing for Linux it would be bye bye.
Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: Magnum on February 09, 2015, 12:56:38 AM
I agree with you.

Linux is difficult to program for.

Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: anta40 on February 09, 2015, 02:07:53 AM
Quote from: Magnum on February 09, 2015, 12:56:38 AM
Linux is difficult to program for.

Not really, actually.
Assuming the compiler/interpreter and its dependencies are installed properly.
Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: Gunther on February 09, 2015, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: anta40 on February 09, 2015, 02:07:53 AM
Not really, actually.
Assuming the compiler/interpreter and its dependencies are installed properly.

Yes and one must know that the ABI is different (64-bit version).

Gunther
Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: carlos on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM

Programing for Linux is easier tan programming for Windows, as Linux is a TEXT OS,  programing for Gnome or KDE is more convoluted than Windows, but no more hard.

Perhaps the hardest thing about programing in Linux is the sheer number of Libraries it has, and make sure your target has the correct dynamic library it needs,  or use the static version of said library

Ahh yes, MAKE is the king (or Queen???)

Carlos
Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: Gunther on February 11, 2015, 04:57:11 AM
Carlos,

Quote from: carlos on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM
Programing for Linux is easier tan programming for Windows, as Linux is a TEXT OS,  programing for Gnome or KDE is more convoluted than Windows, but no more hard.

Perhaps the hardest thing about programing in Linux is the sheer number of Libraries it has, and make sure your target has the correct dynamic library it needs,  or use the static version of said library

Ahh yes, MAKE is the king (or Queen???)

Carlos

I agree, but is MAKE really necessary for every project? Of course, you can do magic things with make, but a well written shell script does nearly the same job.

Gunther
Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: Magnum on February 11, 2015, 06:49:00 AM
Quote from: carlos on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM

Programing for Linux is easier tan programming for Windows, as Linux is a TEXT OS,  programing for Gnome or KDE is more convoluted than Windows, but no more hard.

Carlos

I have to disagree that programming is easier than Windows.

I spent 6 months and could only make some simple console apps.

Never found any GUI code.

Title: Re: Microsofts progression of bad OSes
Post by: carlos on February 11, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
Quote from: Gunther on February 11, 2015, 04:57:11 AM
Carlos,

Quote from: carlos on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM
Programing for Linux is easier tan programming for Windows, as Linux is a TEXT OS,  programing for Gnome or KDE is more convoluted than Windows, but no more hard.

Perhaps the hardest thing about programing in Linux is the sheer number of Libraries it has, and make sure your target has the correct dynamic library it needs,  or use the static version of said library

Ahh yes, MAKE is the king (or Queen???)

Carlos

I agree, but is MAKE really necessary for every project? Of course, you can do magic things with make, but a well written shell script does nearly the same job.

Gunther

necessary maybe not, but is customary, MAKE is installed by default, is HARD  to find a installation without it.

Quote from: Magnum on February 11, 2015, 06:49:00 AM
Quote from: carlos on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM

Programing for Linux is easier tan programming for Windows, as Linux is a TEXT OS,  programing for Gnome or KDE is more convoluted than Windows, but no more hard.

Carlos

I have to disagree that programming is easier than Windows.

I spent 6 months and could only make some simple console apps.

Never found any GUI code.



"Beginning Linux Programming (4th edition" Neil Matthew, Richard Stones is the best way to learn,  it covers console, curses (console gui) Gnome and KDE. Give it a try, it may work.