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Miscellaneous => The Orphanage => Topic started by: Magnum on January 11, 2016, 12:58:45 PM

Title: Win 98
Post by: Magnum on January 11, 2016, 12:58:45 PM
I want to install Win 98 SE.

But I accidentally threw away my install disk.

Is it available to download ?

Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: guga on January 11, 2016, 02:35:23 PM
Here on the winworld museum for  abandonware software

https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-98

Here is a list of windows version that you can download

Windows 1.0
Windows 2
Windows 2000
Windows 3.0 / 3.1
Windows Whistler
Windows 95
Windows NT 3.x
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 98
Windows ME
Windows Longhorn
WinFrame
Windows Neptune
Windows Nashville
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: jj2007 on January 11, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
Interesting. I wonder whether I could install Win98 on a VM, and how legal that is...
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: guga on January 11, 2016, 04:19:17 PM
Well..it depends on the country legislation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: Magnum on January 11, 2016, 04:28:24 PM


Device driver not found: OEMCD001
No valid CD rom device drivers found


Windows 98 setup files were not found.

Since I got those messages, that would mean it read the CD.

So how can it say it can't find the setup files ?

Another mystery. :-)
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: sinsi on January 11, 2016, 04:33:39 PM
Quote from: jj2007 on January 11, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
Interesting. I wonder whether I could install Win98 on a VM, and how legal that is...
Well, it's been there for years (I remember using it at least 5 years ago) so Microsoft definitely know about it.

We have discussed this previously (http://masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=832.0)
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: dedndave on January 12, 2016, 04:51:30 AM
you want a DOS boot floppy with a set of drivers for the CD drive
boot from that, then run setup

in the past, i have created "El Torito" CD's with the DOS boot stuff on them
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: Magnum on January 12, 2016, 05:37:23 AM
It doesn't have a floppy drive.

And I have also tried a flash drive.

I think it is unfix-able because Win 98 is about 18 yrs while my laptop is only 10 yrs old.

Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: dedndave on January 12, 2016, 05:55:19 AM
then, you need an El Torito CD with the DOS boot stuff on it
the drivers create a CD device that is recognized by DOS during the setup process
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: dedndave on January 12, 2016, 05:58:26 AM
... if you google around, you can probably find the boot stuff in ISO form
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: sinsi on January 12, 2016, 06:38:16 AM
If your laptop has a SATA drive, Windows 98 doesn't know SATA, only IDE. Can you change from SATA to IDE (legacy) mode in the BIOS?
98 booted from CD using floppy emulation, which loaded DOS (including oakcdrom.sys and mscdex,exe) then tried to run setup from the CD.
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: jj2007 on January 12, 2016, 09:36:44 AM
I've managed to get Win98SE running. The first option in the list is a preconfigured VmWare VM, and you can get it running if you accept several reboots and click "Skip file" whenever it asks for the non-existent CD Rom in D:

Unfortunately Win98SE can't handle shared folders, so it's pretty isolated 8)
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: hutch-- on January 15, 2016, 07:55:59 PM
JJ,

Format one partition as FAT32 and you should be able to access that with win9x.
Title: Re: Win 98
Post by: Vortex on January 16, 2016, 05:49:54 AM
NTFS for Win98 :

https://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-win98/

NTFS Reader for Windows 95, 98, Me :

http://www.diskinternals.com/ntfs-reader/