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My current Acer box is Win7-64 and over ten years old. A new Core i3 is twice as fast as my old i5, so I reflect if I should spend 500€ (600US$) for a new notebook.

Here is an overview of differences between Win10 and Win11 (https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-11-vs-windows-10/). It doesn't look so bad, although I guess I will cry bitterly when saying bye-bye to Windows 7.

My rough idea is as follows:
- Core i3 (i5 is 200€ more - is it worth it?)
- 8 GB RAM
- 512 GB SSD (or 256 GB SSD plus 1TB harddisk)
- big screen, i.e. 15.6 inches
- touchpad with buttons (yes, that's important)

What worries me are the reviews of various models on Amazon. HP "extremely slow", Asus "webcam like 15 years ago", false specs all over the place, etc. Often they write that the machine simply didn't start at all. None of them has Windows 11 preinstalled. No idea whom to trust... should I wait half a year?

Quote from: jj2007 on October 28, 2021, 12:27:37 AM
should I wait half a year?

Hello sir jj2007, how are you!? I hope fine.;
Well, the world is in inflation, waiting more you can't buy what you can afford these days. Maybe some promotion in Marry Cristmas.
I will wait 3 or 4 years to stabilize inflation.
Why not try linux? You don't need pay for windows license and can buy a better hardware with that money. Most Linux distros detect hardware fine and have live cd rom to try. I can run most windows programs with wine.

Hi Jochen,

If Windows 11 permits, what about a dual installation? A solid state drive could host the two operating systems, Windows 7 and 11.

I don't know the market in Italy but somewhere along the line I would want to have a good look at one running before I payed for it. I would talk you into a desktop but you may not have room for it. This much, don't settle for 8 gig of memory, it makes your performance marginal where 16 gig would make it run reasonable.

The lowest amount of memory I have in a current box is 32 gig and Win10 64 runs well on it. If it can be done, install Win10 as it is now a mature OS and wait until the upgrades for Win11 have become reliable. The shift from Win7 to Win10 is traumatic enough, start with a new OS that is not fully debugged yet and you will have to suffer the quirks for some time.

You should have some backup solution for all of your work, a USB plug portable disk or similar. This means with whatever new box you end up with, you can transfer all of your data to it safely.

Thanks, mineiro, Erol & Hutch, for good advice :thup:

I'll wait and let my ideas (and Windows 11) mature. So far the old box is doing fine, the only real problem is the charger, which requires tender loving care and a lot of fumbling to do its work. The local dealer says it's probably the motherboard and would cost more than a hundred bucks to fix, with no guarantee that it really works.

It seems the price of a notebook is pretty much dependent on a) the price of Windows (chromebooks cost nothing) and b) the price of the cpu. The latter is very high right now, due to some bottlenecks in the industry. Cpu prices may fall in the near future. I'll wait...

JJ,

Nothing is going to become better in time those days...
Things are going to get worst each day and year to come, hopefully slowly
Supply chain disruptions, energy problems, plandemic, etc

Maybe some new i18 CPU will be marginally better at performance but with a huge gain of price.

Also some laptop hardware is very badly recognized by modern Linux (mainly Asian made ones like ASUS for example) but works perfectly with Win10.

Win7 to Win10 is a brutal transition, be ready for a lot of conceptual issues.

My advice would be:
- i7 or i9 with 4-8 cores and 8-16 threads
- 16Gb RAM minimum or better 32Gbytes as Hutch said
- 1T SSD or M2 PCI SSD


i3 or i5 will be painfully slow with Win10, HDD is also too slow, SSD is better but for normal performance you need PCI / M2 SSD
256G or 512G SSD is not enough over time with Win10, you need 1T

Best regards,

Have a look around at any AMD Ryzen powered laptops or notebooks as they tend to deliver more bang for your buck than low end Intel i3 and i5 CPUs. I don't know the Italian market where you should be a lot more familiar than I am but AMD have been making some very good low priced CPUs recently.

Quote from: BogdanOntanu on October 28, 2021, 02:12:28 PM
Also some laptop hardware is very badly recognized by modern Linux (mainly Asian made ones like ASUS for example) but works perfectly with Win10.

Yes, it's necessary try other distros and check whats recognize our machines from user point of view; most motherboards come with device drivers to be compiled from programmers point of view.
Years ago a hardware forum detected what you told; they mapped hardwares sold in Latim America and agregate device drivers modules to their linux version called Kurumin linux; debian/QT/knoppix based.
Was the most used linux version in Brasil that time.

Quote from: BogdanOntanu on October 28, 2021, 02:12:28 PMMy advice would be:
- i7 or i9 with 4-8 cores and 8-16 threads
- 16Gb RAM minimum or better 32Gbytes as Hutch said
- 1T SSD or M2 PCI SSD

Sounds good, but I didn't want to spend more than 500 Euros. After all, I am hanging around here because Assembly is fast even on crappy hardware and crappy OS versions :tongue:

Hi jj2007,

Intel® Core™ i5-11300H - https://ark.intel.com/content/www/de/de/ark/products/196656/intel-core-i511300h-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz-with-ipu.html

Innovative technische Funktionen
Intel® Gauß- und neuraler Beschleuniger
2.0
Intel® Image Processing Unit
6.0
Intel® Smart Sound Technologie
Ja
Intel® Wake on Voice
Ja
Intel® High Definition Audio
Ja
MIPI SoundWire*
1.1
Intel® Deep Learning Boost (Intel® DL Boost)
Ja
Intel® Adaptix™ Technologie
Ja
Intel® Optane™ Speicher unterstützt ‡
Ja
Intel® Speed Shift Technology
Ja
Intel® Turbo-Boost-Technik‡
2,0
Intel® vPro™ Plattformqualifizierung ‡
Nein
Intel® Hyper-Threading-Technik ‡
Ja
Intel® Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-x) ‡
Ja
Intel® Directed-I/O-Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-d) ‡
Ja
Intel® VT-x mit Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Ja
Befehlssatz
64-bit
Befehlssatzerweiterungen
Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2, Intel® AVX-512
Ruhezustände
Ja
Thermal-Monitoring-Technologien
Ja
Intel® Stable Image Plattform Program (SIPP)
Nein
Intel® Volume Management Device (VMD)
Ja

EDell Vostro 5410 Laptop Intel i5-11300H 8GB Ram Core 256GB SSD 14" FHD Win10 Pro
Ricondizionato
EUR 649,96
https://www.ebay.it/itm/403262145732?hash=item5de44c04c4
https://www.ebay.it/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Intel+i5-11300H&_sacat=0&_sop=15

Intel® Core™ i3-11100HE - https://ark.intel.com/content/www/de/de/ark/products/217371/intel-core-i311100he-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html
Innovative technische Funktionen
Intel® Deep Learning Boost (Intel® DL Boost)
Ja
Intel® Speed Shift Technology
Ja
Intel® Turbo-Boost-Technik‡
2,0
Intel® vPro™ Plattformqualifizierung ‡
Nein
Intel® Hyper-Threading-Technik ‡
Ja
Intel® Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-x) ‡
Ja
Intel® Directed-I/O-Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-d) ‡
Ja
Intel® VT-x mit Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Ja
Befehlssatz
64-bit
Befehlssatzerweiterungen
Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2, Intel® AVX-512
Anzahl der AVX-512 FMA-Einheiten
2
Thermal-Monitoring-Technologien
Ja
Intel® Volume Management Device (VMD)
Ja
Intel® Gaussian and Neural Accelerator 2.0
Ja
Intel® Image Processing Unit
6.0
Intel® Smart Sound Technologie
Ja
Intel® High Definition Audio
Ja
MIPI SoundWire*
1.1

i3-1120G4 - https://ark.intel.com/content/www/de/de/ark/products/209736/intel-core-i31120g4-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-50-ghz-with-ipu.html
Innovative technische Funktionen
Intel® Deep Learning Boost (Intel® DL Boost)
Ja
Intel® Optane™ Speicher unterstützt ‡
Ja
Intel® Speed Shift Technology
Ja
Intel® Turbo-Boost-Technik‡
2,0
Intel® vPro™ Plattformqualifizierung ‡
Nein
Intel® Hyper-Threading-Technik ‡
Ja
Intel® Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-x) ‡
Ja
Intel® Directed-I/O-Virtualisierungstechnik (VT-d) ‡
Ja
Intel® VT-x mit Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Ja
Befehlssatz
64-bit
Befehlssatzerweiterungen
Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2, Intel® AVX-512
Ruhezustände
Ja
Thermal-Monitoring-Technologien
Ja
Intel® Stable Image Plattform Program (SIPP)
Nein
Intel® Volume Management Device (VMD)
Ja
Intel® Image Processing Unit
6.0
Intel® Smart Sound Technologie
Ja
Intel® Wake on Voice
Ja
Intel® High Definition Audio
Ja
MIPI SoundWire*
1.1
Intel® Adaptix™ Technologie
Ja

You can wait another year and take Core i5-12600T  :azn:, depends on how tired you are of working on an old machine  :biggrin:

Quote- touchpad with buttons (yes, that's important)

- it is extremely difficult to find one now  :undecided:

Quote from: LiaoMi on October 30, 2021, 12:44:00 AMYou can wait another year and take Core i5-12600T  :azn:, depends on how tired you are of working on an old machine  :biggrin:

Quote- touchpad with buttons (yes, that's important)

- it is extremely difficult to find one now  :undecided:

Yep, it's difficult to decide. Thanks for your advice :thup:

Could you be talked into building a desktop ? So many advantages, more grunt from desktop CPUs, easier to put more memory in, stick an extra HDD, SSD or a spare USB plug in can or three. You could keep it for serious work at home and fix the old laptop for travelling.

Quote from: hutch-- on October 30, 2021, 01:56:11 AM
Could you be talked into building a desktop ?

I do have one, Hutch, and I didn't use it the last 7 years. It takes too much space, and I often take my notebook spontaneously to go for a walk. So it must be a notebook.

Depending on how old it is, there are often tricks like putting the can under a table or putting it on a shelf then you only have the monitor and keyboard/mouse taking up space. I understand portable computers if you need one but it would be handy if you could do both. You could network the two together to move data around between them via wifi or a normal network cable.

If you remember, what CPU, memory and HDD does it have ?

The old desktop machine has Windows 98 on it...

My current notebook has a 447GB harddisk, with 105GB free. So it seems I need at least a 512GB SSD, which means the 256GB models are out; same for those without touchpad buttons.

With your notebook, I imagine the HDD is a 2.5 inch one and you could probably get a disk the same physical size that is a lot bigger. I had a quick look at a supplier and 1 and 2 TB HDDs are not all that expensive. A new much bigger HDD would extend the life of your old notebook. By its age I doubt it would support NVMe drives, I got caught with that one myself. You could use a SATA SSD and a 1 gig one is not all that expensive either.

The thing that wouold really help is if you can put more memory into it, 8 gig is borderline where if you can get either a bigger one or add another module, the whole box would run heaps better.

Amazon questions, for this HP 255 G8 Silver Notebook Portatile, SSD M2 256GB + 1TB, Display FullHD 15.6", Amd A9 Gold 3150U fino a 3,3 GHz, 12GB DDR4, Libre Office, Wi-fi, 3 usb, webcam HD, Win10 Pro (https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B079WZ5RDF/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza)

Q: Is the hard drive 256gb or 1Tb?
Three answers, all in October 2021:
1: You have 2, one 256GB and one 1TB
2: 500
3: 256gb

:badgrin:

Quote from: jj2007 on October 31, 2021, 03:22:10 AM
Q: Is the hard drive 256gb or 1Tb?

:biggrin: If no other option is available, we have to read the page:

QuoteDisco primario di sistema SSD da 256 GB
disco HDD secondario di Backup DA 1TB integrato

Quote from: HSE on October 31, 2021, 03:35:49 AM
:biggrin: If no other option is available, we have to read the page:

QuoteDisco primario di sistema SSD da 256 GB
disco HDD secondario di Backup DA 1TB integrato

Yes indeed, but can I trust them?  :rolleyes:

The same pc is also available here (https://www.multimediashopping.it/hp-255-g8-silver-notebook-portatile-ssd-m2-256gb-+-1tb-display-fullhd-15.6-amd-a9-gold-3150u-fino-a-3-3-ghz-12gb-ddr4-libre-office-wi-fi-3-usb-webcam-hd-win10-pro-pronto-all-uso-gar.-ita/) at a better price (40€ less), from the same vendor but bypassing Amazon

Re touchpad buttons, I found this on Quora:

QuoteHow difficult was it to get used to a touchpad without true right/left click buttons? (https://www.quora.com/How-difficult-was-it-to-get-used-to-a-touchpad-without-true-right-left-click-buttons)
Hate them, hate them, hate them. And oh yeah, I HATE THEM!! New touch pads have superseded buttons and if you put your finger on too hard or quick, it is perceived as a mouse click. PITA!!!

QuoteWhy have laptop designers moved away from touchpad buttons? (https://www.quora.com/Why-have-laptop-designers-moved-away-from-touchpad-buttons)
Because everyone apparently loves Apple and wants to look like Apple. So everyone took away my ability to click and hold middle mouse button (surprisingly used in many graphic programs), or press and hold both left and right buttons (surprisingly essential in my primary graphic program)

Quote from: jj2007 on October 31, 2021, 04:00:24 AM
How difficult was it to get used to a touchpad without true right/left click buttons? (https://www.quora.com/How-difficult-was-it-to-get-used-to-a-touchpad-without-true-right-left-click-buttons)
Hate them, hate them, hate them. And oh yeah, I HATE THEM!! New touch pads have superseded buttons and if you put your finger on too hard or quick, it is perceived as a mouse click. PITA!!!

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Quote from: jj2007 on October 31, 2021, 04:00:24 AM

Quote from: HSE on October 31, 2021, 03:35:49 AM
:biggrin: If no other option is available, we have to read the page:

QuoteDisco primario di sistema SSD da 256 GB
disco HDD secondario di Backup DA 1TB integrato

Yes indeed, but can I trust them?  :rolleyes:

The same pc is also available here (https://www.multimediashopping.it/hp-255-g8-silver-notebook-portatile-ssd-m2-256gb-+-1tb-display-fullhd-15.6-amd-a9-gold-3150u-fino-a-3-3-ghz-12gb-ddr4-libre-office-wi-fi-3-usb-webcam-hd-win10-pro-pronto-all-uso-gar.-ita/) at a better price (40€ less), from the same vendor but bypassing Amazon

Re touchpad buttons, I found this on Quora:

QuoteHow difficult was it to get used to a touchpad without true right/left click buttons? (https://www.quora.com/How-difficult-was-it-to-get-used-to-a-touchpad-without-true-right-left-click-buttons)
Hate them, hate them, hate them. And oh yeah, I HATE THEM!! New touch pads have superseded buttons and if you put your finger on too hard or quick, it is perceived as a mouse click. PITA!!!

QuoteWhy have laptop designers moved away from touchpad buttons? (https://www.quora.com/Why-have-laptop-designers-moved-away-from-touchpad-buttons)
Because everyone apparently loves Apple and wants to look like Apple. So everyone took away my ability to click and hold middle mouse button (surprisingly used in many graphic programs), or press and hold both left and right buttons (surprisingly essential in my primary graphic program)

Hi jj2007,

:biggrin: I was also indignant when they removed CDROM and left only SSD disks in the latest laptops, I connected a large external drive and was happy with that  :tongue:

I solved the DVD writer problem on my current box that does not have one, I bought an LG brand USB plugin one that works fine, cost about $25.00 AUD. Only quirk I found was I left it plugged in and next day the box would not switch on. I unplugged it and it started normally.

15" laptop have little room for DVD, so better option is an external DVD.

Just a one comparison:
https://www.windowscentral.com/acer-swift-3-amd-review

Quote from: TimoVJL on October 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM
Just a one comparison:
https://www.windowscentral.com/acer-swift-3-amd-review

Nice but no touchpad buttons, sorry :cool:

Quote from: hutch-- on October 31, 2021, 09:10:49 PM
I solved the DVD writer problem on my current box that does not have one, I bought an LG brand USB plugin one that works fine, cost about $25.00 AUD. Only quirk I found was I left it plugged in and next day the box would not switch on. I unplugged it and it started normally.

was because its possible to have knoppix DVD rom in it?
I use external DVD writer and also uses 2tb external drive to help the small 256gb,also 128gb usb stick,you can get external 512gb usb drive now, even external SSD

Quote from: jj2007 on October 31, 2021, 09:34:10 PM

Quote from: TimoVJL on October 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM
Just a one comparison:
https://www.windowscentral.com/acer-swift-3-amd-review

Nice but no touchpad buttons, sorry :cool:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-G9-20XWCTO1WW.558803.0.html
(https://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_G9_Black_05.jpg)

Quote from: jj2007 on October 31, 2021, 09:34:10 PM

Quote from: TimoVJL on October 31, 2021, 09:21:55 PM
Just a one comparison:
https://www.windowscentral.com/acer-swift-3-amd-review

Nice but no touchpad buttons, sorry :cool:

ASUS TUF A17 (FA706) 2021 review – RTX 3000 graphics and Ryzen 5000 CPUs
https://laptopmedia.com/review/asus-tuf-a17-fa706-2021-review-rtx-3000-graphics-and-ryzen-5000-cpus-inside-a-budget-conscious-gaming-machine/
https://www.ebay.it/itm/185096998215?hash=item2b18a40d47:g:cjkAAOSwXZlhYW-9
(https://i2.wp.com/laptopmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/7-7.jpg)

or

(https://edgeup.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/3-basic-edit-696x464.jpg)

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Quote from: LiaoMi on November 01, 2021, 02:56:49 AM
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-G9-20XWCTO1WW.558803.0.html

@LiaoMi: Price 2520 Euro :badgrin:

I had a look at the Lenovo models at Amazon.it - and got a surprise: three quarters are "reconditioned" or "renewed", whatever that means. Apparently they get leased by big companies like banks, and at the end of the leasing period are being thrown on the market. If you are lucky, you get a fast machine at 300 bucks. If you are less lucky, you are stuck with a "filthy" machine (according to one client review).

@Nidud: Cute, but my garden is too small :sad:

Quote@LiaoMi: Price 2520 Euro :badgrin:

That's right, today only premium laptops have buttons  :sad: I also have buttons on my work laptop  :tongue:, manufacturers understand the convenience of buttons, but decided to make it cheaper.

Quote from: LiaoMi on November 01, 2021, 07:43:45 PM

Quote@LiaoMi: Price 2520 Euro :badgrin:

That's right, today only premium laptops have buttons  :sad: I also have buttons on my work laptop  :tongue:, manufacturers understand the convenience of buttons, but decided to make it cheaper.

I will try using my wacom instead,which has several programmable buttons,what you choose as buttons reveal if you are a crappy artist :ctrl-z = undo makes many mistakes or paint by trial and error
or great artist:choices are for paint tools used for your perfect photorealistic texture
seriously think you can get tiny wacom almost similar size as laptop

Hello sir jj;
I was talking with a friend and he sugested a thing; not sure how works in Italy but:

Federal police seize smuggled goods and store them until they are sold by the Internal Revenue Service, a kind of auction.
If black friday prices don't please you, it would be another option until Christmas.

Quote from: mineiro on November 04, 2021, 04:36:54 AMFederal police seize smuggled goods and store them until they are sold by the Internal Revenue Service, a kind of auction.

An interesting idea, thanks mineiro :thup:

Hi,

   On (one of) my laptop(s) I just cover up the touchpad with
a piece of cardboard and plug in a mouse.

Cheers,

Steve

Quote from: FORTRANS on November 04, 2021, 10:51:33 PMI just cover up the touchpad with a piece of cardboard and plug in a mouse.

Steve,

There are ways to disable the touchpad programmatically, but that's not the point. I need the buttons of my touchpad for dragging operations: I hold down the left button with my left hand, while my right hand moves the object with the mouse.

More than ten years ago I had Repetitive Stress Injury. That is hell if it hits you, and it's caused mainly by dragging. The two hands method saved me in the end.

Can you use a normal mouse ? I have a mouse set up for fast travel and it only takes a small wrist movement to move anywhere on the screen. If I had to I can use a touch pad but I find them slow and not very accurate.

Hi Jochen

Quote from: jj2007 on November 04, 2021, 11:26:04 PM

Steve,

There are ways to disable the touchpad programmatically, but that's not the point. I need the buttons of my touchpad for dragging operations: I hold down the left button with my left hand, while my right hand moves the object with the mouse.

   Plug in two mouses/mice?  (Pay no attention to me blathering.)

QuoteMore than ten years ago I had Repetitive Stress Injury. That is hell if it hits you, and it's caused mainly by dragging. The two hands method saved me in the end.

   Yeah, I have had some real pain in my wrist after some stress
using a mouse.  Had to use the other hand for a couple months.
Definitely no fun at all.  I hope you are recovered by now.

   And yes, after finding a solution to a problem that works well,
you want to keep on using it.  Forms a habit I guess.  So even if
using the buttons on a mouse might work, it would change your
work environment adversely.  Too bad, it would be a simple thing
to set up.

Regards,

Steve N.

The point is that for dragging objects, I hold down the left button with my left hand, while my right hand moves it with the mouse. That is, I don't use the touchpad at all, just its button. And that can't be emulated by a second mouse: The touchpad button is big and doesn't move away, I can easily press it with the middle and ring finger together.

While writing this, I listen to The Firth of Fifth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD5engyVXe0) and Entangled (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJkOMYzVFE) - some of the most gorgeous pieces of music ever recorded :cool:

Quote from: jj2007 on November 05, 2021, 01:09:39 AM
The point is that for dragging objects, I hold down the left button with my left hand, while my right hand moves it with the mouse. That is, I don't use the touchpad at all, just its button. And that can't be emulated by a second mouse: The touchpad button is big and doesn't move away, I can easily press it with the middle and ring finger together.

   Well, it worked when I tried it.  Using double sided tape stops the second mouse from
moving around.  Rotating it about 120 degrees ccw gives good access to the left button
for your preferred fingers.  Looks stupid though.  And only useful to you if get a new laptop.
The silly experiment was a bit fun to try out.

Cheers,

Steve

Thanks, Steve :tongue:

I have always used a mouse left handed with the normal button layout but I hold the mouse differently, I cross pinch it and use the index finger on my left hand on the left mouse button. It allows me to do most actions both handed, mouse in left hand, keyboard right handled and both hands while typing. Comes with practice.

Quote from: hutch-- on November 06, 2021, 12:15:53 AM
I have always used a mouse left handed with the normal button layout but I hold the mouse differently, I cross pinch it and use the index finger on my left hand on the left mouse button. It allows me to do most actions both handed, mouse in left hand, keyboard right handled and both hands while typing. Comes with practice.

Ok nowadays you can choose mouse wheel setting to scroll up/down in pages
But I wonder if it's an advantage of lefthand mouse to easier use numpad entering lots of numbers
And /home/end/pageup /pagedown keys for manoeuvres in source file simultaneously?
The ones I have in mind is big source file and need to change area from in the beginning . Data section entry new variables, and code further down in source file proc you are working on?

thanks JJ :thumbsup:
thanks to this thread I got my wacom and plugged in to draw

The new machine has arrived today :biggrin:
Right now copying essential files from my external backup drive. After one hour it tells me "about 6 hours left" for 344,684 elements :sad:

I should have activated unsafe mode before starting the copy, see How to Fix Slow USB Transfer Speeds (https://medium.com/@crossphd/how-to-fix-slow-usb-3-0-transfer-speeds-213455173b91)

Windows 10 gives me the creeps. "jpg_image cannot be copied, error c50whatever, probably a virus". Why should Explorer give the dumb user a full path?

Then comes a notification that Defender has found a threat. Wow, so you click on it, only to discover that Defender has found no threats. Are there still some sane people working at Redmond? It doesn't seem so.

Quote from: jj2007 on November 18, 2021, 06:48:19 AM
Are there still some sane people working at Redmond?

sure, they are now updated to version to 11 :biggrin:

JJ,

The first thing you do with Win10 64 is DECRAPP it so it tends to do what you want, not just be an advertising vehicle for Microsoft. Look for a toy called WinaeroTweaker or any other similar app that lets you adjust a whole host of Windows settings. Get a modern version of WINFILE if you were ever used to it as its more like a knife than a bag of marshmellows. Learn where the settings are, one area is "Control Panel", the other is the gear on the start menu.

Once you get rid of the junk, it is a better OS than Win7 and can do more things well. You do have to learn where everything is but being familiar with all of the settings locations (all over the place like a mad woman's sewerage) lets you configure the box a lot easier.

When you get to the APPS option with default apps, scroll down to the nearly hidden options at the bottom of the page to find more settings.

Thanks, I am fighting my way through :badgrin:

Masm32 & MasmBasic are up and running already :thumbsup:

Now disinstalling Slimjet from the old notebook. Deleting 209,622 elements, 1.88GB. It's a browser, what the hell does it store in that folder??? 40 minutes left for deleting...

@jj congratulations of new laptop and hopefully soon we see test results too :smiley:

Congrats JJ on new computer :thumbsup:

First result: By disabling the built-in AV completely, I could push the assembly time for RichMasm from 5.8 to 1.5 seconds! Isn't that cute? :tongue:

Btw my 10-year old machine does it in 1.5 seconds, too. Excluding the \Masm32 folder on the new machine had zero effect.

Quote from: jj2007 on November 19, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
First result: By disabling the built-in AV completely, I could push the assembly time for RichMasm from 5.8 to 1.5 seconds! Isn't that cute? :tongue:

Btw my 10-year old machine does it in 1.5 seconds, too. Excluding the \Masm32 folder on the new machine had zero effect.

Hi jj2007,

most importantly, are the buttons on your new laptop comfortable for you?  :thup:

JJ,

One thing to do is get rid of the UAC, its a pain and its slow. You may be able to find some settings in the firewall to reduce the delay, the M$ AV generally works well and I have not run into that problem here so it sounds like you have just been lucky. If I want to do some serious AV scanning, I download the Kaspersky KVRT.EXE, run it then delete it. I now have all 4 computers updated to 21H2 so it should play any tricks on me.

Quote from: LiaoMi on November 22, 2021, 08:46:08 PMare the buttons on your new laptop comfortable for you?  :thup:

Unfortunately not :sad:

You need too much force to press them, about twice as much as on my current Acer. Still, they are useful for dragging operations where you need to keep the left mouse key pressed. Which is not possible with the touchpad alone.

Quote from: jj2007 on November 23, 2021, 01:22:29 AM

Quote from: LiaoMi on November 22, 2021, 08:46:08 PMare the buttons on your new laptop comfortable for you?  :thup:

Unfortunately not :sad:

You need too much force to press them, about twice as much as on my current Acer. Still, they are useful for dragging operations where you need to keep the left mouse key pressed. Which is not possible with the touchpad alone.

Hi jj2007,

on the old computer I also had very hard buttons, ergonomics suffered, and after that it is difficult to switch to soft buttons  :biggrin: You start pressing buttons as hard as my mom does  :tongue:

Quote from: LiaoMi on November 28, 2021, 09:08:00 PMYou start pressing buttons as hard as my mom does  :tongue:

Reminds me of good ol' Eagle Search System (https://second.wiki/wiki/adlersuchsystem) :tongue: