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General => The Soap Box => Topic started by: hutch-- on December 20, 2022, 10:10:03 AM
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This is from BollocksMan (whoops I mean BORZZIKMAN). It seems to be a malicious plot from the US military/industrial complex to dump F35 variants with their allies so that they still have air superiority over their allies with the latest version of the F15 which is a kick arse air superiority fighter.
The only problem with this plan is the Russians have got wind of it and also have air superiority over F35s. :tongue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU)
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Video: Pilot ejects from F-35B near White Settlement, Texas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9GBHNaYzcs
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/f-35-stealth-fighter-still-has-871-problems-176302
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In this site is very funny people, just choose a your side :biggrin:
China have made a good progress of fighters and thinking that, they are stupid is just a good thing our site warmongers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU)
What I see in this video is that pilots from different countries met in the air, greeted each other with a professional attitude, and parted afterwards.
All the rest is bulls*tty interpretation and dramatic music to generate some clicks.
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jj,
You are backing the wrong side with the American military/industrial complex, Boeing make the F15 and in the latest version its a genuine kick arse air superiority fighter. The Lockheed Martin F35 is a slow lemon that is full of bugs and a free kick for both Chinese and Russian made fighters.
The only problem with "stealth" is it only works on 3rd world militaries like Iraq, any of the BIG militaries can already detect so called stealth fighters and all they are doing is providing target practice for REAL air superiority fighters. :tongue:
Chinese J20, F15, Sukhoi, Mig, Eurofighters, Saab Gripen, all air superiority fighters, not phony fighters.
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jj,
You are backing the wrong side with the American military/industrial complex, Boeing make the F15 and in the latest version its a genuine kick arse air superiority fighter. The Lockheed Martin F35 is a slow lemon that is full of bugs and a free kick for both Chinese and Russian made fighters.
The only problem with "stealth" is it only works on 3rd world militaries like Iraq, any of the BIG militaries can already detect so called stealth fighters and all they are doing is providing target practice for REAL air superiority fighters. :tongue:
Chinese J20, F15, Sukhoi, Mig, Eurofighters, Saab Gripen, all air superiority fighters, not phony fighters.
Good point, why waste money, when europe can make good planes :thup:
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So who to blame ?
https://9gag.com/gag/a2KZjDO
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64055018
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> Good point, why waste money, when europe can make good planes
That is exactly the case, there is enormous talent in Europe in terms of technology but its being bled dry quickly by the US military/industrial complex with its influence on US government policy blocking energy to Europe, producing incentives to get European manufacturers to move to the US and draining the talent pool from Europe with jobs in the US.
With Europe's dependence for security on the US, they are waging an economic war against Europe that will turn it into a 3rd world set of countries. The real solution is for Europe to stand on its own and get on with the Russians who would like to be part of Europe. They have the resources, the military grunt for defence, massive land area and the desire to be European.
It needs to be remembered that Russia is not the old Soviet Union and few real communists remain. If most can forget about the mess that Hitler made of Germany, most could also forget the mess that Stain made of the old Soviet.
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jj,
You are backing the wrong side with the American military/industrial complex, Boeing make the F15 and in the latest version its a genuine kick arse air superiority fighter. The Lockheed Martin F35 is a slow lemon that is full of bugs and a free kick for both Chinese and Russian made fighters.
The only problem with "stealth" is it only works on 3rd world militaries like Iraq, any of the BIG militaries can already detect so called stealth fighters and all they are doing is providing target practice for REAL air superiority fighters. :tongue:
Chinese J20, F15, Sukhoi, Mig, Eurofighters, Saab Gripen, all air superiority fighters, not phony fighters.
Good point, why waste money, when europe can make good planes :thup:
I agree :thumbsup:
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get on with the Russians who would like to be part of Europe.
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Your wet daydream
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If China wants Australia being part of China , who resist ?
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If China wants Australia being part of China ,
we hope Australia being a pole of world, not being the 51st State of USA.
I can eat again beef, red wine and lobster from Australia.
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Timo,
Old hatreds die hard, with the hostility of the Baltic states to Russia, would you wish to review their contribution with the Einsatzgruppen ethnic cleansing Russians following the Nazi invasion of Russia ? I have a strong stomach but I have seen the footage of the Einsatzgruppen.
six_L,
Lets hope you are right, our current government is not hostile to China but it will never cowtow to China either. Trade makes friends and there is much to benefit with this trade. We have been allies with the US since WW2 and that will not change.
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> Good point, why waste money, when europe can make good planes
That is exactly the case, there is enormous talent in Europe in terms of technology but its being bled dry quickly by the US military/industrial complex with its influence on US government policy blocking energy to Europe, producing incentives to get European manufacturers to move to the US and draining the talent pool from Europe with jobs in the US.
With Europe's dependence for security on the US, they are waging an economic war against Europe that will turn it into a 3rd world set of countries. The real solution is for Europe to stand on its own and get on with the Russians who would like to be part of Europe. They have the resources, the military grunt for defence, massive land area and the desire to be European.
It needs to be remembered that Russia is not the old Soviet Union and few real communists remain. If most can forget about the mess that Hitler made of Germany, most could also forget the mess that Stain made of the old Soviet.
Full agree.
From my point of view, the ideal would be to form a federal EU, where each country could develop and compete according to its strengths, and, at the same time, form part of a whole, like the US. The world seems to revolve around great political and economic axes. Too bad that the EU has been left under a myriad of unscrupulous corrupt politicians, bowing down to globalism, excessive bureaucracy and, in the end, serving foreign interests.
Regarding EU+Russia it would be fantastic, a win-win for both sides. In case Russia does not want to join the EU, which might be understandable given recent events, there are various integration formulas that could be adapted. There are countries that are part of the EU, but with their own currency, like Denmark, or that are not part of the Schengen area, like Ireland.
What Europe might have been if it had not fallen under the rule of Soros' lackeys.
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a federal EU, where each country could develop and compete according to its strengths, and, at the same time, form part of a whole, like the US
I wouldn't mind if the EU was as federal as the U.S. :cool:
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Russian's goal is to protect people in Ukraine
Putin said that and want to war end.
Read a full story and think, and now use a your brains.
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Hi Timo,
I guess the old hatreds really do die hard. If you have ever seen the footage of the Einsatzgruppen and what they did in Russia, you would not understand why they have not flattened the Baltic states because in some parts of Russia, they have ancient hatreds as well. The Mongols, various wars with the Teutonic knights, later wars with Sweden, the invasion of Russia just after the 1917 revolution by western governments and the WW2 atrocities that people from the Baltic states were part of.
It would work for the Baltic states if they got along with Russia, energy, trade, security, resource access and Russian tourists spending money in those countries. Old hatreds are bad business and they go nowhere.
Now instead of Europe freezing its arse off this winter, they could have cheap energy, resource access, tourists and the associated inflow of tourist money, its only WEF donkeys in government are blocking this as they kiss the arse of the US military/industrial complex shaping US foreign policy.
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Steve,
i don't hate russian women, they are friendly for me.
I think you agree with me, in russia are many good looking old women and if you need one, just send PM and i try to find blonde with big boobs :biggrin:
One oligarg daughter told me, that his dad wanted her to find foreign man from europe :biggrin:
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A mate of mine,a Greek guy who lived just down the road from me had a Russian girlfriend and while she was a good looking blonde, she was also NUTZ and expected him to be her servant, benefactor and doormat and fortunately for Nick (the Greek guy) it did not last. She used to turn up at his place and blow her stack in the street so everyone heard her so Nick used to go missing just to avoid her.
I have met others who were much nicer, some with their boyfriends on holidays here or even immigration. If you were into mail order brides in OZ, they are mainly from the Philippines and strangely enough, I have seen very happy couples with kids so its not the same old scam for guys who could not find a match here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdP4drpogvU)
What I see in this video is that pilots from different countries met in the air, greeted each other with a professional attitude, and parted afterwards.
All the rest is bulls*tty interpretation and dramatic music to generate some clicks.
The fact remains that Russia has always had better technology than the USA... And this is even before we get to the SU-57.
The F35 is a perfect example of US military industrial imcompetence/corruption.. while not noticable when used against '3rd world' militaries, but very noticable when coming up against a foe of equal capabilities.
Even 3rd world countries have beaten the hell out of US forces, takes longer but they do do it in the end... Vietnam springs to mind,amongst many others.
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The best air superiority fighter the US has is the latest version of the F15, its fast, carries a load of ordinance, has a lower radar profile than the older ones and is a competitor to most others around but then, it was designed in the 1970s. The F35 is a lemon, its slow, buggy, unreliable and rediculously expensive.
A pork barrelling blunder fuelled by the military/industrial complex to fleece US taxpayers of massive sums of money, nearly as bad as funding Zelensky to the tune of many billions. Continuous wars may suit the profits of the aforementions military/industrial complex but it keeps weakening the US at a time when its competitors are getting stronger. Maybe the war mongers in the US government are closet Kommie Pinkoes sucking up to the respective politburos of China and Russia.
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Hutch problem with f15 it was best air fighter, but like you bend metal over and over again sooner or later it will break,that's what happened to f15,after many years of use lots of high g turns, f15 breaks apart
Nothing last forever
About Russian mail order brides,seen tv documentary on that
Some Russian girls want to visit their family back in Russia, but end up stuck in new country with men who don't care about go visit Russia again after getting married
Some ends up being abused
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Magnus,
All large militaries have hour limits on aircrafts, the current later F15s are recent manufactured so they don't have that problem. I gather that some of the older ones get updated.
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The underlying story on that F35 video, was that this billion dollar aircraft was supposed to have a 'standoff'/detection capability of some 200km.
Then a fairly high signature (35 million dollar) aircraft sneaks up on it, apparently undetected. :toothy:
This coud be just Russian capability promo and in the eye for the US, but there is a similar video taken from a US naval ship in the Black Sea, where some really big ('london bus') signature aircraft fly straight at these ships, and the US navy cannot get a lockon to the aircraft. Coincidences are mounting up.
The Russians always underplay their capabiltities, with their cards close to their chest, whereas the US tends to brag too much.
I also take part of my views from looking at the 'weapon' itself.
The F35 looks like a 'disfunctional pig', the Migs and Suhkoi's look like beautiful and mean machines made by Nature itself.
The A10 is a great functional machine and you can see it has punch. It's Russian counterpart doesn't look that scary.
The F15 was great in it's day, but like all aircraft they move past their 'sell by date'.
The F16 today I would say is a flying coffin, completely outclassed.
The Euro fighters and others don't impress me and I say we're just looking at more 'F35' types in a different airframe.
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The type of analysis I have seen is that while western militaries have been beating their chests about trampling over 3rd world armies, there has not been a military confrontation for a 1st world military since ww2 and the difference shows. The assumption that NATO could defend Europe against Russia is not sound as both the US and Europe have downsized their military so the extra money can be poured into corporate profits.
This war in Ukraine is a wake up call to both the US and Europe that they are currently outclassed in military equipment and manpower and while western media has been frothing at the mouth with bullsh*t propaganda, the facts on the ground say otherwise. With some years of lead time, the Russians have ben able to mobilise a large number of recruits and ramp up their military/industrial complex to the extent that all of the predictions about them running out of missiles, tanks and the like are just fantasies.
Unfortunately (for Ukrainian men) it suits the US and Europe to keep the war going as they can both test out some of their hardware and their suppliers can keep raking in the buck$. Modern western wars are not for winning the war, they are for fleecing their own taxpayers for as long as they can to keep up the cash flow.
This is why the F35 is a lemon, it does not matter if they are duds, as long as they keep selling.