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General => The Soap Box => Topic started by: K_F on January 11, 2023, 05:09:08 AM
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There is a plan... This was hidden in 2014/2017.. then resurfacing lately again.
I wonder who they are connected with. :wink2:
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/deagelcom-predicts-up-to-80-population
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Whether I agree with the predictions or not, the article raises some interesting questions. Why has the bulk of the western world desperately tried to inflict forced vaccinations on their own populations ? You can safely say they "Don't give a PHUK about population health" and absolutely refuse to support people who have adverse side effects (like dying).
Then you get the PHUKING morons who are flogging the view that the unvaccinated should be penalised for wanting to live longer. Lucky I live in OZ where it is no longer inflicted at the same level as it was earlier.
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Sorry, Hutch: your anti-vax view pretty much flies in the face of generally-accepted medical science.
(Not that the whole vaccine thing was pretty well fucked up, world-wide, but that's a matter of politics and policy, not sound medical science. What, you anti-vaxxers want to bring back polio? smallpox?)
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I have probably had more vaccinations than you have, we got them in primary school, years of tetanus injections for cuts with metals, the difference is they were exhaustively tested and a very low incidence of side effects. Contrast this with Pfizer vaccines and the emerging side effects (like dying), check out your heart while you still live.
Don't forget the massive payout that Pfizer had to make with the death of African children being used as guinea pigs and you want to trust their research ?
As the Vulcan greeting goes, "Live long and prosper". Best of luck in succeeding. :tongue:
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with the death of African children being used as guinea pigs and you want to trust their research ?
Seek people very often dye.
Pfizer maked a massive test here. Some die, like people without the vaccine also die.
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Don't forget the massive payout that Pfizer had to make with the death of African children being used as guinea pigs and you want to trust their research ?
Yes, I'm quite well aware of all that. I'm not naive or a Pollyanna; Big Pharma is certainly one of the major evils in the world today. (Most recent example: the "opiod crisis", for which they are primarily responsible.) And there are the despicable practices carried on by my (U.S.) government on prisoners and Negroes in days of yore.
That doesn't change the fact that in order to get ahead of these diseases and pandemics, populations need to be vaccinated. In sufficient numbers. Right now my country (the U.S.) is lagging far behind in COVID vaccinations. Don't be surprised if this comes back to bite us on the ass sometime in the future.
We need to be able to trust their research, which means we need to hold their (Big Pharma) feet to the fire. Something unlikely to happen anywhere in the capitalist world.
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Right now my country (the U.S.) is lagging far behind in COVID vaccinations. Don't be surprised if this comes back to bite us on the ass
True, but that affects only Trump voters ;-)
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Whether I agree with the predictions or not, the article raises some interesting questions. Why has the bulk of the western world desperately tried to inflict forced vaccinations on
I think that prediction was if the bilary/obummer/biden team stayed in power, which hasn't happened.
I'd say that scheme was intercepted by the 'Alliance Team ((commonly known as Q, Q-Anon, White Hats consisting of the Dragon Families, Trump, Putin, Xsi and Modi - Many have joined over the years) , but for some reason continued at a much reduced culling rate.
The reasons given for that was to catch the whole Deep State (world wide) who were expecting it to start, of which Ukraine and Taiwan are the last bastions of extreme criminal intent. The Alliance created the 'Fog of War' which still continues.
Those AMG-NEWS articles on Treason Trials,executions.. etc, I take as real, for many reasons :wink2:
Oh BTW, the convid/vax scam was the first of the means to cull the population. You don't have to believe this.. not that I care anyway.
You make you own choices, but keep those to yourself. :eusa_hand:
There's a lot that still doesn't make sense, except for the children/adrenochrome story... but ones things for sure.
We are dealing with a lot of distopian lunatics, who actually think they are justified in what they do.
Thus the title of this thread. :biggrin:
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Oh, you Qanon types are so darn cute when you spout your nonsense! And BTW, you need a new tinfoil hat there; your old one's getting a bit ragged and probably is no longer effective against mind-control rays.
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Hi David,
The problem as I see it is not vaccination, its the vaccines. I don't remember them all but at primary school I got polio (last before the Salk oral vaccine), smallpox, , a few others and the difference was they were all tested exhaustively by the "Commonwealth Serum Laborities" before they were released as safe for general usage.
I have had enough tetanus injections over my working lifetime to become a pin cushion and the only one that caused a lot of damage was penecillin after an operation which took over a year to partially fix and 5 years before I could drink orange juice again.
I am stuck with allergies as a consequence and view any medication with great suspicion, especially anything that is injected. Along comes Covid 19 and you get wall to wall propaganda for what is still untested and unsafe drugs where the manufacturers are protected from liability for any side effects and this is for a company that tested some of their junk on kids in Africa and had to pay out massive sums as compensation.
Now even with massive supression of problems from Pfizer RNA vaccines and deliberate censureship of documented side effects, the sewerage is starting to hit the fan with the elephant in the room, deaths following Pfizer vaccinations, generally heart failure.
We have all heard about ratbag fringe conspiracy theories, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq for example and the end of Colin Powell's career. I wonder how long it will take for the great covid scam to have its guts spewed across the world ?
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Some valid points there. Let's put some things into perspective:
1. Yes, the vaccines were certainly rushed into production. This was due mostly to valid concerns about the pandemic getting out of control, but also partly due to political pressures, let's not kid ourselves. That doesn't in itself mean that the vaccines are totally untested and dangerous, but it is cause for concern.
2. The idea that the pandemic was intentionally created as a means of global population control or whatever is completely ludicrous, without basis in reality, and ought to be challenged wherever it comes up. This was not a "plandemic". I find the notion that the Chinese created COVID, for whatever reason, and intentionally released it onto their own population to be especially despicable and insane. So please, let's don't go there.
3. At the same time, the Chinese, as well as us (the U.S.) may well bear responsibility for COVID. Despite the claims to the contrary, it's entirely possible that the virus was released from the Wuhan virology lab through an accidental release, not intentionally; it's happened before. And there are serious questions about what the U.S. was doing in cooperation with Wuhan. These questions ought to be answered, but given the obstinate refusal of the Chinese to play ball here, probably never will be.
4. The pharmaceutical companies did profit enormously from this (and the latest news I saw today is that Moderna is planning on jacking up its price for a vaccine dose to $USD130). However, that was really a matter of necessity, given the gravity of the situation, and the fact that nobody else could have produced vaccines in sufficient quantity soon enough. That's just a reality of the capitalist world we live in. So far, I haven't seen any credible evidence that the pharma cos. cut corners on the way to delivering vaccines, though they well may have made other mistakes we don't know about.
5. The hysteria among the anti-vaxxers, so far as I can tell, is mainly over the "genetic engineering" aspect of the mRNA vaccine. Since there is so much ignorance about how this stuff actually works, it's easy to scare people: "Oooooh, it changes your DNA! It reprograms your cells! It transmits marching orders from Bill Gates and Klaus Fuchs!" This technology is not new; it's just that it's never been this widely applied before. I will say that I am not a big fan of genetic engineering myself; I'd be in favor of a total ban, world-wide, on GMOs, for example, though again, that Pandora's box has already been opened and can never be shut. But again, the evidence--the credible evidence, not the hysterical claims from critics who don't know shit about science and medicine, shows that they're generally safe. Generally safe. Any treatment that's as widely applied as COVID vaccines can have side effects, and effects that aren't unknown until well after they're administered, but so far the claims of damage to heart tissue, for example, seem to be extremely overblown. These things should be monitored, of course, and they are being tracked by agencies like the FDA and CDC. Hopefully they're doing all the due diligence they're supposed to be doing.
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> Moderna is planning on jacking up its price for a vaccine dose to $USD130
They can try that, but there is simply no market for it. In Europe, a Moderna dosis cost about 23-25US$:
Aug 2, 2021 (https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-moderna-turn-up-covid-19-vaccine-prices-europe-as-companies-plot-deliveries-into-2022)
Pfizer and Moderna have both raised the price of their mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines in Europe, The Financial Times first reported. Pfizer’s shot will cost €19.50 ($23.15) per dose under a new supply deal, while Moderna will charge $25.50 per dose in its own agreement
With all the rest, I agree, of course :biggrin:
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But again, the evidence--the credible evidence, not the hysterical claims from critics who don't know shit about science and medicine, shows that they're generally safe. Generally safe.
I guess if you support the supression of enough data, you CAN make claims of safety but until they are PROVEN safe by exhaustive testing, they are dangerous, experimental vaccines.
The obvious is that they are "Generally safe" until you die from them. Then it does not matter. :tongue:
The covid 19 vaccinations are not like the vaccinations that protected the world with the eradication of Smallpox, there are many indications that its a money based SCAM.
If someone wants or needs a covid 19 vaccination, I certainly would not treat them like those who wanted Ivermectin, if they are willing to take the risk or are in need, I wish them well but I seriously oppose forcing people to be vaccinated.
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