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General => The Colosseum => Topic started by: zedd151 on September 21, 2015, 08:05:28 AM

Title: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 21, 2015, 08:05:28 AM
What on Earth is with Mozilla FireFox?

Task Manager:

Code: [Select]
firefox        242,136kb
:dazzled:
I use Windosws XP, and I look at InternetExplorer
Task Manager:
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IEXPLORE       23,108kb
folder size of InternetExplorer
988kb - Yes I know it calls many system dll's.

Mozilla firefox:
84.6MB - plus the folders in %APPDATA%, etc

Is there such a thing as a lightweight web browser.

I already have a slow internet connection most of the time, I think that firefox is not helping
matters. Most pages won't load with the version of Internet Explorer that I am stuck with, I
have got to look to see if there is a better way than firefox.

I hate bloatware
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: anta40 on September 21, 2015, 11:15:34 AM
K-Meleon (http://kmeleonbrowser.org/), maybe?
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: cman on September 23, 2015, 03:34:10 AM
I used Pale Moon ( a light weight version of Firefox ) before : https://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-win32.shtml. This might work better for you...
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: TWell on September 23, 2015, 04:07:01 AM
Good tip. There is x64 portable version too.
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 23, 2015, 05:07:37 AM
I used Pale Moon ( a light weight version of Firefox ) before : https://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-win32.shtml. This might work better for you...
Thanks for the tip.

I'm downloading the portable version now. :t

later:

Not compatible with Windows XP. :(


Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: Vortex on September 23, 2015, 05:52:36 AM
Hello zedd151,

Intel Atom and Windows XP build :

Quote
This version of Pale Moon is optimized specifically for use on Intel Atom processors and compatible with the Windows XP and Server 2003 operating systems.

https://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-portable.shtml

Download Pale Moon Portable Atom/WinXP (32-bit):

https://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-atom.shtml
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 23, 2015, 08:16:11 AM
Hello zedd151,

Intel Atom and Windows XP build :

Thanks for the link. I was just about to Google for something better than Firefox.
I already have a slow internet connection, and I think FF was dragging it down more.

So far the PaleMoon browser seems faster, though it is still somewhat a resource hog - around 93 MB
showing in Task Manager. I have adequate memory so that is not really an issue.

After running PaleMoon for a day or so, I will post my remarks about it.

-- I am so glad it is able to use Firefox extensions. :t


later...

Yup, I like it. It is Very similar in styling and layout to Firefox. But runs faster.  :eusa_dance:
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: hutch-- on September 23, 2015, 09:52:58 AM
Z,

Something I have been using for a few years now is Iron Portable. A Google clone that has better security.
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 23, 2015, 11:08:08 AM
I have noticed some quirky behaviour with PaleMoon.

It started showing web pages without apparently, using the 'style-sheets'.

Basically displaying just text, and the 'MASM Forum' logo.
 ::)

I haven't changed any settings there, even rebooted...
So, for now I'm back on Firefox.

Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: TouEnMasm on September 23, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
With xp,I used Opera.I have now Windows 10 and edge (the new internet explorer) had just copy the look of opera
and had the same menus.

Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 23, 2015, 06:57:26 PM
I downloaded PaleMoon Portable, and it is holding up okay so far.

Don't know why the full version had lost the ability to read the stylesheets though.
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: jj2007 on September 23, 2015, 07:12:47 PM
I used Pale Moon ( a light weight version of Firefox )

Works fine on Win7-64 :t
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 23, 2015, 11:11:03 PM
Pale Moon (XP version, portable) is working out great for me. Very fast.

Thanks to everyone that gave tips, links, etc.

I plan on making my copy REALLY portable; using winrar
to create a self extracting archive that deletes everything
when the browsing session is finished. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 24, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
I extracted the SFX.exe, adjusted the homepage and a few other settings, used winrar
to create an autorun SFX, and it is working perfectly. :t

Now thats what I call portable. :biggrin:

edit to add:

And I have also installed a couple extensions to the package.

:)
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: TWell on September 25, 2015, 05:01:19 AM
S3.Google Translator (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/s3google-translator/?src=hp-dl-featured) works with Pale Moon x64 version :t
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 25, 2015, 06:50:33 AM
After using PaleMoon for a couple days, even it started working slow.

So now, I have reverted back to Internet Explorer. It works fine for this forum, just I can't

visit a lot of websites with it, for lack of compatibility.

But it is fine for now.  :eusa_snooty:

Big difference with Internet Explorer! :t
Loads pages almost instantly. Too bad about the compatibility issues though.

Total memory usage is around 27 MB, compared to 200MB + when I last checked with PaleMoon.
If I ever get a more stable internet connection, I will most likely go back to PaleMoon, or even
Firefox.
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 26, 2015, 01:27:44 AM
Hehe..

I found GreenBrowser.

It is based on the IE engine apparently, so runs as fast as IE would.

Link to original posting describing it:

http://masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=2561.msg26886#msg26886

So I am testing it for the time being (the portable version)

Seems to be packed with many features not present in IE....

So far, so good...

But since it is based on Internet Explorer still has the same compatibility issues.
so therefor, I keep a shortcut to PaleMoon close at hand.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: zedd151 on September 26, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
One really nice feature about GreenBrowser, is the ability to enable/disable:
images (just found out)
sounds
video
ActiveX
Java
Script (JavaScript??)
----
Enable Animations
EnableDownload Flash
Enable Dowload ActiveX

I turn all of them off, the browser gets even faster. :biggrin:

Only bad thing, it doesn't appear to store these settings.

Title: Re: Bloated Web Browser
Post by: Farabi on October 07, 2015, 01:56:13 AM
ARM and android had no past so they keep on with future, while Windows and Intel kept the legacy code runing. There is diference on performance impact based on such a  concept. Android optimized on size and memory, but unable to do multitasking or what we used to call multithreading, multiple windows ran at the same time, while android need us to destroy and recreate certain part in order to preserve memory. For those who used to use Windows, the first time using android might see it as a drawback, while for the new generation android seen as a superior machine because it fast and optimized.

I used Win 8.1 tablet, I thought I bought a cellphone then I get a desktop. It had GSM slot but I cant register my internet package even top up my number because there is no Dial or SMS feature, I dont know how is in there, but I need at least those two for my cellphone if this was considered one. The only thing I want from Intel-Windows device was, my lifetime research will be worked on at least a system.

Bloated webbrowser? Of course it was? I dont know why, based on the device manager, my system was a x64 system which ran a 32-bit OS, what does it mean? And it only had 1 Gbytes of RAM. Sounds like a good deal, but when it goes to Windows Desktop, it worth less than a low cost android tablet. Android had less storage, but fit for 200 apps, Im serious, intall MS Office and you will need a external harddisk with 1 TB storage which akward if you carried it everywhere.

But I like it, sounds cool, since I am the only one who use it. Win 8.1, and please, dont force me to update to Win 10, i dont want to carry storage everywhere, what I need is a cellphone.