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Microsoft Excel can open DBASE IV, i.e. *.dbf files, but...

Started by jj2007, December 28, 2023, 10:23:28 PM

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jj2007

The ODBC documentation is horribly confused, but with trial and error we may resolve its mysteries. Attached a testbed - extract to a folder and run it. Hit Escape+Return to exit.

Queries that work:
select * from World_Countries
select * from World_Co
select * from otherdb3
select * from otherdb4
select * from otherdb4WhatEverSuitsYou

Queries that don't work:
select * from World_C
select * from otherdb2
select * from otherdb

There is even a logic in it, but it's pretty weird. Good old DOS 8.3 times ;-)

jj2007

New testbed. I've managed to open and read DBF (III and IV), XLS files and MDB files :biggrin:

Usage: drag a dbf, xls or mdb file over the exe; for mdb files, you need to adjust the query to main, i.e. take away the numbers.

One oddity is that dbf and xls files require a path to the folder, while mdb files need a filename (the testbed handles this automatically).

Question: can xls files (testjj2.xls, testjj3.xls) be read with the tool if the user has not MS Office installed?

Can I have some feedback please for other Windows versions? I have tested in on Win10 and a WinXP VM (where only Excel 3.0 works).

P.S. Below results of C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe, for admin and ordinary user.

TimoVJL

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/i-need-to-locate-and-download-the-odbc-driver-for/27563edf-fb35-4415-ba68-e0de5b95b963
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42782449/missing-accdb-database-drivers#43434633

EDIT:
#define WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN
#include <windows.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#pragma comment(lib, "user32.lib")

int __cdecl main(void)
{
    HKEY hKey, hKey2;
    DWORD dwIdx, dwRC, dwType;
    char szSub[260], szValue[260], szTmp[260];

    hKey = 0;
    szValue[0] = 0;
    if (!RegOpenKey(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, "SOFTWARE\\ODBC\\ODBCINST.INI", &hKey))
    {
        dwIdx = 0;
        while (RegEnumKey(hKey, dwIdx++, szSub, sizeof(szSub)) == ERROR_SUCCESS)
        {
            wsprintf(szTmp, "SOFTWARE\\ODBC\\ODBCINST.INI\\%s", szSub);
            if (!RegOpenKey(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, szTmp, &hKey2))
            {
                dwRC = sizeof(szValue);
                dwType = REG_SZ;
                if (RegQueryValueEx(hKey2, "Driver", NULL, &dwType, (BYTE *)szValue, &dwRC))
                    ;
                //puts(szTmp);
                //puts(szValue);
                printf("%s\t%s\n", szTmp, szValue);
                RegCloseKey(hKey2);
            }
        }
        RegCloseKey(hKey);
    }
    return 0;
}

EDIT: perhaps useless to download, as those have bugs.

unable to load odbcji32.dll
May the source be with you

jj2007

Thanks, Timo :thumbsup:

As much as possible, I want to stick with components that are already installed by default. So far I can read older xls, dbf and mdb files with standard components.

sinsi

A few discoveries
 - a DBF file is not a database, but a database table
 - most versions of ODBC truncate the filename to 8.3, so it might work if you use the short name
 - downloading the FoxPro9 OLEDB driver seems to open any DBF, including the list that didn't work

A direct download link is https://github.com/VFPX/VFP9SP2Hotfix3/raw/master/VFPOLEDBSetup.msi

TimoVJL

old 32-bit version
VFPODBC.msi

EDIT:
Using it directly, don't have install it.
"DRIVER={Microsoft Visual FoxPro Driver};SourceType=DBF;DBQ=xxxx;"
May the source be with you

jj2007

Quote from: sinsi on January 01, 2024, 02:04:10 AMA few discoveries
 - a DBF file is not a database, but a database table
Right.

Quote- most versions of ODBC truncate the filename to 8.3, so it might work if you use the short name
Unfortunately, it's not that easy.

Quote- downloading the FoxPro9 OLEDB driver seems to open any DBF, including the list that didn't work

A direct download link is https://github.com/VFPX/VFP9SP2Hotfix3/raw/master/VFPOLEDBSetup.msi

As written above, I want to stick with components that are already installed by default, so that potential users don't shy away from using the macros.

Currently, I am looking into OLE DB. A can of worms, of course, but I am confident that I can come up with a read sheet xyz from test.xls into the Sql$() array in less than 100 lines of underlying code.

Happy New Year to everybody, and thanks for all the suggestions :thumbsup:

sinsi

Quote from: jj2007 on January 01, 2024, 03:46:46 AMAs written above, I want to stick with components that are already installed by default, so that potential users don't shy away from using the macros.
On a clean install of Windows 7 I could open 2/3 MDBs and 2/4 XLSs with your proggie but I had to make a User DSN for each type - the user and system lists were both empty.

TimoVJL

May the source be with you

sinsi

Win7 has the odbc jet drivers for mdb and xls but they don't work woth office 97

jj2007

Quote from: sinsi on January 01, 2024, 03:57:46 AM
Quote from: jj2007 on January 01, 2024, 03:46:46 AMAs written above, I want to stick with components that are already installed by default, so that potential users don't shy away from using the macros.
On a clean install of Windows 7 I could open 2/3 MDBs and 2/4 XLSs with your proggie but I had to make a User DSN for each type - the user and system lists were both empty.

Interesting. My Win7-32 VM, which should be "clean" as there is no Office installed, has no user or system DNS, but I can read Access files from '97 to 2002 (maybe higher, I don't have samples at hand). Plus Excel 3.0 (but not 4.0 or 5.0), and DBASE III + IV (but not II).

QuoteMicrosoft Office 97 (version 8.0) is the fifth major release for Windows of Microsoft Office, released by Microsoft on November 19, 1996

Office 97 still has some friends. I stick to Office 2003, and feel a bit odd to use a software that is over 20 years old. Just can't get used to ribbon interfaces :badgrin:

Happy New Year, sinsi and stoo :thumbsup:  (we have 5h40' left)

stoo23

QuoteHappy New Year, sinsi and stoo :thumbsup:  (we have 5h40' left)

 :smiley: Thanks, hope you had a good one.  :biggrin: