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Started by FORTRANS, May 12, 2014, 11:57:16 PM

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FORTRANS

Hi,
   
   See the thread "Instruction Set detection for 32 bit Operating
Systems" for the background of running CPUID programs on older
computers.  Moderator, if you feel this should be a part of that,
merge the threads.  Or move to a better subforum if appropriate.

   I have an old CPU information program from Intel that runs under
windows.  Two versions, 16-bit and 32-bit that even mentions Win32s
(though it still won't work with it).  The 16-bit works as a window,
and displays minimal information.  It shows "CPUINFO16 DLL Version:
1.1".  It was from the 1996 time frame.

   So I looked for a more current version, and based on a link posted
on the forum I found one.  I used a text extract tool to get the
CPUID3A.ASM and CPUID3B.ASM programs from; Order Number:
241618-038, "Intel (R) Processor Identification and the CPUID
Instruction", Application Note 485, April 2012.  I did some minimal
clean up to compensate for the lines wrapping in places.  There do
seem to be some remaining errors.  The garbage following "This
processor: GenuineIntel" should not occur with the P-III for
instance (AFAICT).

   Off and on, I am editing the files to restore the formatting lost
in the extraction.  Maybe a quarter of the way through that.  If I
can figure out how to fix an error I will do that.

   I assembled and linked the program as a DOS program.  If someone
took the related C program, it can apparently be made into a protected
mode program.

Regards

Steve N.

{Program output P-III.}

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel vFân+    GenuineIntelGenuineIntelâ          ·â                                                                                                                                        é                                                                  This processor:
Processor Signature: 00000683h
Family Data: 006h
Model Data : 08h
Stepping : 3h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 02h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 03020101h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: 0383F9FFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 MMX FXSR SSE

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 2
CLFLUSH Line Size: 0 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:0
Initial APIC ID : 00h

{Program output Pentium.}

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel Pentium(R)
Processor Signature: 00000570h
Family Data: 005h
Model Data : 07h
Stepping : 0h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 01h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: 000001BFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR MCE CX8

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 0
CLFLUSH Line Size: 0 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:0
Initial APIC ID : 00h

{Program output Pentium(R) M.}

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel
Brand String: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz
Processor Signature: 000006D6h
Family Data: 006h
Model Data : 0Dh
Stepping : 6h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 02h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 80000004h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 00000180h
  EIST TM2
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: AFE9F9BFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR MCE CX8 SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS TM PBE
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):EDX Supported Features: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 22
CLFLUSH Line Size: 64 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:0
Initial APIC ID : 00h

Gunther

Steve,

I think it's the program which Intel provides inside the example section of the "Intel Processor Identification and the CPUID instruction" manual (application note 485) from May 2012. It has a hole bunch of information (see below). The point is, it doesn't check the OS support for SSE and AVX. But it can serve as a blueprint for a good diagnostic tool.

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel
Brand String: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Processor Signature: 000306A9h
Family Data: 006h
Model Data : 3Ah
Stepping : 9h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 0Dh
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 80000008h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 77BAE3FFh
  SSE3 PCLMULQDQ DTES64 MONITOR DS-CPL VMX SMX EIST TM2 SSSE3 CMPXCHG16B XTPR PD
CM PCID SSE4.1 SSE4.2 x2APIC POPCNT TSC-DEADLINE AES XSAVE AVX F16C RDRAND
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: BFEBFBFFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH
DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE
CPUID.(EAX=06h):EAX Supported Features: 00000077h
  DIGTEMP TRBOBST ARAT PLN ECMD PTM
CPUID.(EAX=06h):ECX Supported Features: 00000009h
  MPERF-APERF-MSR ENERGY-EFF
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):ECX Supported Features: 00000001h
  LAHF-SAHF
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):EDX Supported Features: 28100000h
  XD RDTSCP EM64T
CPUID.(EAX=80000007h):EDX Supported Features: 00000100h
  INVTSC

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 0
CLFLUSH Line Size: 64 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:16
Initial APIC ID : 02h

CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=0:
  Data  Cache; Level 1; Size 32 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 2
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 8
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-origina
ting threads sharing this cache
    Cache is not inclusive of lower cache levels
    Direct mapped cache
CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=1:
  Instruction Cache; Level 1; Size 32 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 2
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 8
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-origina
ting threads sharing this cache
    Cache is not inclusive of lower cache levels
    Direct mapped cache
CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=2:
  Unified  Cache; Level 2; Size 256 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 2
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 8
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-origina
ting threads sharing this cache
    Cache is not inclusive of lower cache levels
    Direct mapped cache
CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=3:
  Unified  Cache; Level 3; Size 8192 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 16
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 8
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-origina
ting threads sharing this cache
    Cache is inclusive of lower cache levels
    Complex function is used to index the cache

CPUID.(EAX=05h) Monitor/MWAIT Leaf:
Smallest monitor line size: 64 bytes
Largest monitor line size: 64 bytes
Enumeration of Monitor-MWAIT extensions: Supported
Interrupts as break-event for MWAIT: Supported
Number of C0 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0
Number of C1 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 2; C1E Supported
Number of C2 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 1
Number of C3 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 1
Number of C4 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0

CPUID.(EAX=06h) Thermal and Power Management Leaf:
Number of Interrupt Thresholds: 2

CPUID.(EAX=09h) Direct Cache Access Leaf:
Value of MSR PLATFORM_DCA_CAP[31:0]: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=0Ah) Architecture Performance Monitoring Leaf:
Version ID: 3
Number of General Purpose Counters per Logical Processor: 4
Bit Width of General Purpose Counters: 48
Length of EBX bit vector to enumerate events: 7
Core Cycle event : Available
Instruction Retired event : Available
Reference Cycles event : Available
Last-Level Cache Reference event: Available
Last-Level Cache Misses event : Available
Branch Instruction Retired event: Available
Branch Mispredict Retired event : Available
Number of Fixed-Function Performance Counters: 3
Bit Width of Fixed-Function Performance Counters: 48

CPUID.(EAX=0Bh) Extended Topology Leaf n=0:
  x2APIC ID bits to shift right to get unique topology ID: 1
  Logical processors at this level type: 2
  Level Number: 0 (Thread)
  Level Type : 1 (SMT)
  x2APIC ID : 2
CPUID.(EAX=0Bh) Extended Topology Leaf n=1:
  x2APIC ID bits to shift right to get unique topology ID: 4
  Logical processors at this level type: 8
  Level Number: 1 (Core)
  Level Type : 2 (Core)
  x2APIC ID : 2

CPUID.(EAX=0Dh) Processor Extended State Enumeration Main Leaf n=0:
  Valid bit fields of XCR0[31: 0]: 00000000000000000000000000000111b
  Valid bit fields of XCR0[63:32]: 00000000000000000000000000000000b
  Max size required by enabled features in XCR0: 832 bytes
  Max size required by XSAVE/XRSTOR for supported features: 832 bytes
CPUID.(EAX=0Dh) Processor Extended State Enumeration Sub-Leaf n=1:
XSAVEOPT instruction: Supported
CPUID.(EAX=0Dh) Processor Extended State Enumeration Sub-Leaf n=2:
Size required for feature associated with sub-leaf: 256 bytes
Offset of save area from start of XSAVE/XRSTOR area: 576

CPUID.(EAX=80000006h) Extended L2 Cache Features:
L2 Cache Size: 256 KB
L2 Cache Associativity: 8-way
L2 Cache Line Size: 64 bytes

CPUID.(EAX=80000008h) Physical and Virtual Address Sizes:
Physical Address bits: 36
Virtual Address bits : 48


Gunther
You have to know the facts before you can distort them.

dedndave

Prescott w/HTT
This processor: GenuineIntel
Brand String: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Processor Signature: 00000F43h
Family Data: 00Fh
Model Data : 04h
Stepping : 3h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 05h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 80000008h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 0000649Dh
  SSE3 DTES64 MONITOR DS-CPL EIST CNXT-ID CMPXCHG16B XTPR
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: BFEBFBFFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=80000001h):EDX Supported Features: 20100000h
  XD EM64T
CPUID.(EAX=80000007h):EDX Supported Features: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 0
CLFLUSH Line Size: 64 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:2
Initial APIC ID : 01h

CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=0:
  Data  Cache; Level 1; Size 16 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 2
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 1
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-originating threads sharing this cache
    Cache is not inclusive of lower cache levels
    Direct mapped cache
CPUID.(EAX=04h) Deterministic Cache Parameters (DCP) Leaf n=1:
  Unified  Cache; Level 2; Size 2048 KB
    Self Initializing
    Max # of addressable IDs for logical processors sharing this cache: 2
    Max # of addressable IDs for processor cores in physical package : 1
    WBINVD/INVD is not guaranteed to act upon lower level threads of non-originating threads sharing this cache
    Cache is not inclusive of lower cache levels
    Direct mapped cache

CPUID.(EAX=05h) Monitor/MWAIT Leaf:
Smallest monitor line size: 64 bytes
Largest monitor line size: 64 bytes
Enumeration of Monitor-MWAIT extensions: Unsupported
Interrupts as break-event for MWAIT: Unsupported
Number of C0 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0
Number of C1 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0
Number of C2 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0
Number of C3 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0
Number of C4 sub C-states supported using MWAIT: 0

CPUID.(EAX=80000006h) Extended L2 Cache Features:
L2 Cache Size: 2048 KB
L2 Cache Associativity: 8-way
L2 Cache Line Size: 64 bytes

CPUID.(EAX=80000008h) Physical and Virtual Address Sizes:
Physical Address bits: 36
Virtual Address bits : 48

FORTRANS

Hi,

   I booted up my oldest Pentium computer today in a futile
attempt to recover some files.  But I did run the CPUID3A
program, and its output differed from the Pentium that I
reported upon above.  So here it is.

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel Pentium(R)
Processor Signature: 00000521h
Family Data: 005h
Model Data : 02h
Stepping : 1h

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 01h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: 000001BFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR MCE CX8

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 0
CLFLUSH Line Size: 0 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:0
Initial APIC ID : 00h


   I also tested another Pentium, that I thought was the same as
the first one, but it was different as well.

CPUID data documented in the Intel(R) 64 and IA-32 Software Developer Manual
Volume 2A Instruction Set A-L, March 2012 [doc #253666]
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/index.htm

This processor: GenuineIntel Pentium(R)
Processor Signature: 0000052Ch
Family Data: 005h
Model Data : 02h
Stepping : Ch

Maximum CPUID Standard and Extended Functions:
CPUID.(EAX=00h):EAX: 01h
CPUID.(EAX=80000000h):EAX: 00000000h

CPUID.(EAX=01h):ECX Supported Features: 00000000h
CPUID.(EAX=01h):EDX Supported Features: 000001BFh
  FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR MCE CX8

CPUID.(EAX=01h) Leaf:
Brand Index : 0
CLFLUSH Line Size: 0 bytes
Max Addressable IDs for logical processors in physical package:0
Initial APIC ID : 00h


Regards,

Steve N.

Gunther

Steve,

Intel has a long list in the CPUID and processor detection manual for model, stepping etc.

Gunther 
You have to know the facts before you can distort them.

dedndave

that's an older version, Gunther
the latest is -036 i think

then, for specific processors...

ftp://download.intel.com/support/processors/

ftp://download.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/sb/24445355.pdf

this makes it a little easier

http://ark.intel.com/

FORTRANS

Quote from: dedndave on June 25, 2014, 08:54:51 PM
that's an older version, Gunther
the latest is -036 i think

Hi,

   See above in the initial post, I was using -38.

Quote
then, for specific processors...

ftp://download.intel.com/support/processors/

ftp://download.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/sb/24445355.pdf

this makes it a little easier

http://ark.intel.com/

   Thanks for the links.  Interesting.

Regards,

Steve N.

Gunther

Dave,

thank you for the interesting links.  :t

Gunther
You have to know the facts before you can distort them.

dedndave

it would seem that intel is no longer publishing that document
at least - i am not able to locate it on their site
all their CPUID links point to the software developers manuals
it is 241618 aka AP-485

i was able to find version 039, however - and it seems to be a substantial update

https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Jeremy.Jones/CS4021/processor-identification-cpuid-instruction-note.pdf

Gunther

You have to know the facts before you can distort them.

FORTRANS

Hi,

Quote from: dedndave on June 26, 2014, 01:45:24 AM
it would seem that intel is no longer publishing that document
at least - i am not able to locate it on their site
all their CPUID links point to the software developers manuals
it is 241618 aka AP-485

   Yeah, all their links seem broken.

Quote
i was able to find version 039, however - and it seems to be a substantial update

   Thanks.  Yeah, -38 was quite a bit different than -36.  I got
the -38 version from a link on the forum, but I can't find it now.

   One interesting item was the following.

QuoteApplication Note 39
Output of the CPUID Instruction
5.1.8 Structured Extended Feature Flags Enumeration (Function 07h)
When EAX is initialized to a value of 7, the CPUID instruction returns
structured extended features flags in the EBX register. This function
requires ECX to be initialized with a sub-leaf number. When the function
is executed with ECX = 0, EAX will contain the maximum supported sub-leaf.
When this function is executed with ECX = 0 (sub-leaf 0), a return
value of EAX=EBX=ECX=EDX=0 indicates no sub leaves are supported.

Table 5-12. Structured Extended Feature Flags Parameters
Register Bits Description
EAX[31:0] Reports the maximum supported leaf 7 sub-leaf.
EBX[31:11] Reserved
EBX[10] INVPCID. If 1, supports INVPCID instruction for system software
        that manages process-context identifiers.
EBX[9] Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB if 1.
EBX[8] Reserved
EBX[7] SMEP. Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Protection if 1.
EBX[6:1] Reserved
EBX[0] FSGSBASE. Supports RDFSBASE/RDGSBASE/WRFSBASE/WRGSBASE if 1.
ECX[31:0] Reserved
EDX[31:0] Reserved

   In one of their optimization documents, they have test results for
the Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB.  Looks like it would be worth
investigating.

Regards,

Steve N.

Gunther

Quote from: FORTRANS on June 26, 2014, 07:59:33 AM
   In one of their optimization documents, they have test results for
the Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB.  Looks like it would be worth
investigating.

No doubt about that.

Gunther
You have to know the facts before you can distort them.