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Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« on: September 30, 2022, 09:48:30 AM »
THE WEF's GREAT RESET HAS FAILED! TIME UP FOR KLAUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2t5H_mExXE
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2022, 10:22:03 AM »
Can't watch the video right now because I am listening to Genesis, but the comments are spot on :thumbsup:

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I am a 61 year old widow who is very anti-WEF/WHO/UN, etc. Haven't taken any of the poison shots, never wore a mask and always use cash, plus just to annoy the 'greens', I drive a gutsy diesel car. I ditched my TV a decade back, have no smart phone, etc.
However, I am truly frightened about the future of our world. Being a farmer's daughter...

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2022, 12:24:32 PM »
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Sounds like a great lady.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2022, 03:53:42 PM »
> THE WEF's GREAT RESET HAS FAILED!

In the Netherlands they are still in power and they are ruining every aspect of our society.
One of the richest countries in the world and now with one of the poorest inhabitants in the EU.
We have to make a choice this winter, heating up our house or buy food.
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2022, 08:35:05 PM »
THE WEF's GREAT RESET HAS FAILED! TIME UP FOR KLAUS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2t5H_mExXE

Now I've found the time to listen to this video. The guy doesn't have the faintest idea of economics or geopolitics, and he is clearly barking at the wrong tree. In his muddy conspiration fog, he doesn't even mention the MIC... you heard that bit about Mussolini? Hilarious. Which, of course, doesn't rule out the possibility that Mr Nobody got a few little things right. The more you ramble on, the greater the chance that you will accidentally come across something true.

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2022, 09:07:02 PM »
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> The guy doesn't have the faintest idea of economics or geopolitics

That is probably his advantage, not baffled by bullsh*t.  :tongue:
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2022, 09:26:09 PM »
Recommended reading (an excellent book, really)

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2022, 08:08:27 AM »
Have you actually read it? Sounds like you have.

If so, good for you. I don't know if you dislike Schwab and his agenda, as I do along with lots of others here, but especially if so, then it's important to read what they write so you get it accurately, from the horse's mouth so to speak.

I probably should read that, but don't really want to.

Here's a reader's review from that Amazon page:

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At Davos, the theme was you’ll own nothing and love it. Now we are starting to see signs of stakeholder capitalism which is code for the 4th industrial revolution. This book much like the others is another rebrand of the same book Klaus has written many times. He’s like a college student that reuses the same paper in every class and changes the title and a few paragraphs to work for the subject.

That being said this is a view where global corporations own everything and allow us a small piece. They do this by making it appear that people have a say in how the corporations run. I bought this book because I couldn’t believe that all of the sudden all corporations are hard core thinking all the things that the youth has been complaining about since the cultural revolution. Now I can see he lays it out very clearly. You want to know what happens after COVID? This book will help but after you are done reading it you may not be on board from socialism for the common man and capitalism for the corporations at the same time. Then allowing technocrats to tell all us sheep how to exist. That’s how we have been living since COVID started sounds like this is just a toe in the water compared to this playbook.

Y'know, we keep hearing that phrase: "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. You'll rent everything and it will be delivered by drone." Now, I don't even know the correct provenance of that quote: Did Schwab actually say or write that? What was the context? Was it an off-the-cuff remark at a symposium? In any case, I can tell you that even though I come from socialist/communist roots (family background), and still have some respect for the communitarian ideal, that whole idea just smells bad to me. And I can easily believe that it would be the fond fantasy of, most especially, the corporatists of the world, never mind governments, who are always just itching to have us sheep line up in an orderly fashion so as to guarantee their continued stability and, especially, their bottom line.

Aren't you the least bit skeptical of such utopian dreams? You do know, of course, what actually happens, in human history, on planet Earth, to such dreams, don't you? History is replete with examples.

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2022, 09:08:52 AM »
Have you actually read it? Sounds like you have.

Of course.

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Y'know, we keep hearing that phrase: "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. You'll rent everything and it will be delivered by drone." Now, I don't even know the correct provenance of that quote: Did Schwab actually say or write that?

Kind of. The story is explained here, and it's not a pro-WEF page. It's all about the circular economy, where waste is fed back into the system as a raw material. The exact contrary of the American Fracking Dream.

The "You'll own nothing" deals basically with the choice to either own or lease a product, e.g. your car. A priori, owning the car is not the better choice - it depends (I own my car, leasing would not be convenient for my usage pattern).

Schwab has a long chapter discussing how the uneven distribution of income and wealth could be solved in favour of the poor. That's why I'm not surprised that the extreme right is so furious: they smell communism.

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2022, 09:33:14 AM »
The image that comes from knowing something about the WEF is that it represents the massively wealthy expounding a plan that has them on the top of the tree of society and the serfdom at the bottom tilling the fields. A new version of feudalism where the lord of the manor lives in a castle on the top of the hill and the peasantry live in squalor below.  :thdn:
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2022, 09:51:33 AM »
Hutch, feudalism is what we currently have, not what the WEF proposes. Read the book, you will like the style.

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2022, 12:02:23 PM »
I know where you are coming from but I don't suffer from "Pie in the sky" idealism, I look at the data and those who fill the WEF are the massively rich pontificating about how the serfdom will be able to live. Nowhere in history do the affluent hand power to the plebians, they desperately hang onto it by any means possible, wars and all.

The old Stalinist era of communism was "Come the revolution Komrade" but ended up with the party elite acting like lords of the manor, modern "democracy" is a front for much the same thing where the super rich act like lords of the manor, a flavour of fascism dressed up as a popular vote for "approved" parties with "approved" policies sold to the plebians via the MSM.
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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2022, 12:44:50 PM »
The story is explained here, and it's not a pro-WEF page. It's all about the circular economy, where waste is fed back into the system as a raw material. The exact contrary of the American Fracking Dream.

I took a look at that page, viewed the video. Some reactions:

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

In principle I could be down with this. Hey, what does it matter if I own that thing or not if I have access to it? Like, let's say, a 3D printer: if I can use the one at the local DIY center for minimal cost or for free (plus it's all set up and running), why do I need to own one?

Whatever you want you'll rent

OK, I can live with that. I guess. (But you better not try to take away my record collection. Or my camera collection. Or my ... )

And it'll be delivered by drone.

No. Fuck no. I don't want some goddamn Uber/AirBnB/Lyft drones flying around everywhere delivering shit people don't need. No.

The US won't be the world's leading superpower

All I can say to that is amen to that, brother. But that won't happen just because Brussels has good intentions. Uncle Sam has other ideas ...

A handful of countries will dominate

Hmm, here's where things could get problematic: which countries? how would they share power? would they even share that power? And why must anyone "dominate"? Not my idea of a fair, balanced, sustainable world. Not here with human beings on planet Earth.

You won't die waiting for an organ donor

Hallelujah! Who wouldn't want that?

We won't transplant organs; We'll print new ones instead.

Now here is where this whole thing goes off the rails into some kind of Gatesian masturbatory fantasy where everything is deemed possible if only we let the technocrats loose. Hard no. Any idiot can see where unconfined technology has gotten us so far in the game ...

You'll eat much less meat; An occasional treat, not a staple. For the good of the environment and our health

I already live this way. I eat meat occasionally, like it but don't subsist on it. As an agricultural practice it's helping drive us over the cliff of extinction (and I don't give a shit what those Dutch farmers have to say about it! Or worse yet, Brazilian ranchers ...).


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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2022, 01:16:55 PM »
OK, more on this (we're on a WEF/Klaus Schwab/Great Reset tangent here):

As we all know, the devil is in the details. So let's look at one aspect of a possible new "world order", a seemingly harmless one, seeds:

Are we going to have a humanitarian, farmer-and-consumer-friendly, fair and environmentally-sustainable scheme for propagating and distributing seeds? Or are we going to have more of the same, meaning mega-corporation Monsanto-owned Roundup-ready proprietary seed that the farmer cannot replant, and in fact will be sued if any of these proprietary seeds blow off his property onto his neighbor's fields? Where the corporation owns patents on these seeds, and woe unto him who dishonors those patents? Where agriculture increasingly funnels into monoculture, which any agronomist who knows horseshit will tell you is a recipe for disaster?

See the problems here? This Schwabian future is looking more and more like a Gatesian dystopia to me.

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Re: Interesting analysis from the UK, bye bye WEF
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2022, 06:19:04 PM »
The ideas spread by the WEF are very much to the liking of people on the left because they are defining us a world controlled by the state. You have nothing, everything will be supplied by the state and you will be happy. The problem with communism is that it is an autocratic system, in which one or a small group of people are god, and the most beautiful of people do not usually come to power, so its format of theoretical paradise painted at the beginning is far from of reality.
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