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Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« on: October 13, 2022, 03:16:44 PM »
So it is all starting to come out.
I wonder when the court cases will start.
Link to the video HERE.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2022, 11:51:28 PM »
Link to the video HERE.

No, that must be fake news.

Oh my god, I forgot the irony tags again!
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2022, 12:05:38 AM »
I don't mind Redacted but the videos tend to be a bit long winded.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2022, 04:59:51 AM »
yeah, I also get impatient when someone talks for one hour in what could be said in 5 minutes or less

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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2022, 05:32:50 AM »
Those who have childens should think what they talk.
I don't  have any childrens, as desided that, when i was 15 years old.
All real parents should think, what is best for their descendants and not to listen some jerks.

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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2022, 05:50:08 AM »
> All real parents should think, what is best for their descendants and not to listen some jerks.

Does that mean that, we the parents, should not have listened to the government, to the media, to the "thousands" of "experts", skip the restrictions imposed on all the unvaccinated? Well that's what I did. But it was not an easy decision, after all I am not an expert, and you decide not only about your life but about your children's, because criticism of vaccines seemed reasonable to me and because there is no trust in the government, unless you are somehow involved in globalism. Sad and risky reality.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2022, 05:53:43 AM »
After vaccinations, the statistics show unusual excess mortality, and "we can't know why." In some cases they blame it on the summer heat, or something else, but nobody will look at the vaccines.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2022, 07:55:15 AM »
Look, enough with that anti-vax BULLSHIT already!

I'm vaccinated (2 doses of Moderna + booster), and I'll probably fucking outlive all of you conspiracists who have decided to go unvaccinated.

Yes, I did get COVID: just got over it. But it was pretty mild, I'd say equivalent to the 4th or 5th worst flu I ever got, and I recovered quickly (thanks also to a monoclonal antibody infusion: I felt fine 2 days later).

Maybe you guys ought to consider forming an enclave and going back to living in medieval times. Leave the rest of us with a little science to protect ourselves with.

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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2022, 08:18:22 AM »
Who do you think you are that you can insult other people?

I'm vaccinated (2 doses of Moderna + booster), and I'll probably fucking outlive all of you conspiracists who have decided to go unvaccinated.

Then get the 4th vaccination (2nd booster) and be happy! It's your health and your decision. But keep your regurgitated mainstream opinion to yourself.
When I want to hear or see mainstream, I tune in myself. Your fourth or fifth brew can you tell your hairdresser.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2022, 08:22:07 AM »
I can insult you because you're all idiots. Simply pointing out the obvious.

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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2022, 08:45:07 AM »
I can insult you because you're all idiots. Simply pointing out the obvious.

What else can one say to this silly, ignorant claptrap? You unmask yourself with that.
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2022, 09:05:38 AM »
> I can insult you because you're all idiots.

Are you unable to find an argument that doesn't need to resort to insult? And you demand to stop any type of contrary opinion. Does democracy consist in adapting exactly to your interests?

> I'm vaccinated

Good for you. What we are dealing with here is that the pharmaceutical company confesses that there were no prior guarantees for its vaccine. Nothing less. Therefore, your argument is that you are vaccinated and all the rest of us are idiots.  :eusa_clap:
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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2022, 09:19:42 AM »
And you demand to stop any type of contrary opinion. Does democracy consist in adapting exactly to your interests?

No. Let me explain something: Unlike some others, here and elsewhere, I am an advocate of pretty much absolute free speech. Meaning that I fight against any suppression of free speech, no matter which direction it comes from. I'm not advocating that the opinions expressed here, with which I vehemently disagree, be suppressed. Quite the contrary. I take as my guiding principle what the late, great Molly Ivins, an American agitator (from Texas!), once said, paraphrasing: The only solution to the problems of free speech is more free speech.

I am firmly against any kind of "deplatforming", doxxing, all the rest of that despicable bullshit that's becoming acceptable these days for people you don't want to hear from.

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Good for you. What we are dealing with here is that the pharmaceutical company confesses that there were no prior guarantees for its vaccine. Nothing less. Therefore, your argument is that you are vaccinated and all the rest of us are idiots.  :eusa_clap:

OK, let's put this violently contentious matter into perspective. I'm not an idiot, meaning that I certainly don't look upon the pharmaceutical industry as angels or passively good social forces. Quite the contrary; Big Pharma is certainly one of the most corrupt of human organizations ever. And regarding these latest allegations, that they brought out their product (the COVID vaccine) under false premises, these certainly ought to be investigated. And someone ought to hold their feet to the fire. I actually welcome this investigation by the Euro parliament, even though it's politicized, coming from right-wingers.

But it's a long, long way, and a quite unscientific, actually anti-scientific and pseudo-scientific one, to leap from there to the conclusions drawn by the right wingers here and elsewhere, that somehow this whole thing was part and parcel of a nefarious plot to enslave humanity, to finally bring about our subjugation to The Man, The System, and that Bill Gates/George Soros, et al, are rubbing their hands in glee at how they managed to inject us with microchips, or whatever insane bullshit the right-wingers believe in.

No. They (Big Pharma) do need to have their feet held to the fire, but there is no global conspiracy. It was not a "plandemic". The vaccines, for all their faults (and how could there not be faults? these things normally take years to develop; the whole thing was done on a disastrously truncated schedule), did prevent and are preventing the pandemic from being even more deadly, and for that we should be thankful. We got off fairly easy this time; who knows about next time?

So a little perspective, please. This thing has gotten so politicized--in BOTH directions--that it's hardly possible to have a rational discussion about any aspect of it.

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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2022, 10:22:07 AM »
The vaccines, for all their faults (and how could there not be faults? these things normally take years to develop; the whole thing was done on a disastrously truncated schedule), did prevent and are preventing the pandemic from being even more deadly, and for that we should be thankful.

As of today, 6.56 Million deaths worldwide - from the virus, of course, not from the vaccination.

Recent research says 95% of Germans got antibodies. The death rate is around 3%; if 95% of Germans had actually caught real Covid, without vaccination, then over 2,300,000 Germans would be dead by now. Fortunately, the great majority, around three quarters, are indeed vaccinated (the 25% novaxxers are hiding away in order not to catch it).

On the positive side, the novax campaign has had a significant impact on Trump's voters :cool:


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Re: Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2022, 10:36:37 AM »

Yes, I did get COVID: just got over it. But it was pretty mild, I'd say equivalent to the 4th or 5th worst flu I ever got, and I recovered quickly (thanks also to a monoclonal antibody infusion: I felt fine 2 days later).

LOL, hang on wait, what?
The whole point to getting the jab was that you didn't need anything else. OMG that's priceless.
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