Pfizer just admited they didn't know if it stopped transmission

[jj2007]

Yes, I did get COVID: just got over it. But it was pretty mild, I'd say equivalent to the 4th or 5th worst flu I ever got, and I recovered quickly (thanks also to a monoclonal antibody infusion: I felt fine 2 days later).

LOL, hang on wait, what?
The whole point to getting the jab was that you didn't need anything else. OMG that's priceless.

The whole point to getting the jab was that you didn't die of Covid. If you are not vaccinated, your risk of dying is about 20-40 times higher. And that's not a joke, it's scientific evidence.

[NoCforMe]

Y'see, that's another puerile, stupid assertion the part of the anti-vaxxers: "See, the vaccine was supposed to prevent you from getting COVID, and you got it anyhow! Proves it's a crock of shit!"

No. First of all, anyone who believes that anything that Modern Medical Science comes up with (or, for that matter, Modern Technology in general) is 100% effective is a fool. Not even the pharma companies, the CDC or the equivalent Euro health agencies ever made such a ridiculous claim.

Yes, I got COVID after being vaccinated, as have a lot of people. But it was much milder than if I hadn't been jabbed, and since I'm in that "vulnerable" part of the population (age) it was a good thing I did. So even if it doesn't work 100% to prevent infections (no vaccine does), it is still of overall benefit to us who live here on planet Earth.

[hutch--]

Being completely vaccine free with no RNA / DNA damage, I can only wish the vaccinated well because from what I read in the medical data, they will need it. I would have got vaccinated just to shut up the morons but with a history of extreme allergies, the pharmaceutical companies do not recommend getting vaccinated. It has been a blessing in disguise, no long term damage in the future, unknown side effects, instant drop dead syndrome and contrary to popular dogma, I have never caught covid at all.

Its your life, trash it if you wish, trust in pharma companies that will not garrantee their products and who have a history of using children in Africa as guinea pigs with high fatalities, and you may have found a fast way into the next life. 

[Shintaro]

Seriously you guys crack me up.
You take a untested unproven (Zero 5 year studies) mRNA (well tested on the millions of human lab rats) that changes and suppresses your immune system then you take a monoclonal antibody infusion to boost your immune system.
LOL
You guys are gold.

But you know what...I respect your opinion on YOUR choices as every person is free to make their own decisions.

[NoCforMe]

You take a untested unproven [...] mRNA [...] that changes and suppresses your immune system

I challenge you to produce any evidence that that's true, that the COVID vaccines "suppress" one's immune system. They do no such thing. Change it, yes, well maybe.

Any evidence. Except garbage that you find on some right-wing hard-core anti-vax site. Any reputable, verifiable evidence.

I'm waiting.

[hutch--]

Waiting for what ? Fully tested vaccines that are garranteed safe ? I have had many vaccinations over a lifetime, the ones in primary school, many tetanus shots etc .... but they were all proven safe, not this experimental RNA using the world's population as guinea pigs.

Remember Pfizer in Africa with a pile of dead kids.

[Shintaro]

You know what, I wrote quite a long response.

But then I realised, proceeding down this path was fruitless, because, at the end of the day, you have made your choice and made up your mind for a procedure that cannot be reversed. So now you are justifying to yourself that your choice was correct.
What would be the point of debating anything, you have made your decision and it cannot be reversed, even if I was to change your mind.

If you want to look at something scientific, have a read of the work by Dr Sam Bailey and her husband. Or what is happening to people, simply look for jab injuries on FB. (Jab injuries Australia)

However, If you still feel so aggrieved, then post something Pro-vax. It's a free-speech forum.

[Shintaro]

Waiting for what ? Fully tested vaccines that are garranteed safe ? I have had many vaccinations over a lifetime, the ones in primary school, many tetanus shots etc .... but they were all proven safe, not this experimental RNA using the world's population as guinea pigs.

Remember Pfizer in Africa with a pile of dead kids.

I think India is suing or charging Gates over the vax injuries there.

[NoCforMe]

I think India is suing or charging Gates over the vax injuries there.

This is a steaming pile of horseshit: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gates-india/false-claim-bill-gates-faces-trial-in-india-for-testing-vaccines-on-children-idUSKBN22V27F

And you're an idiot.

[hutch--]

Come on guys, no nasties. I am a choice person myself, what p*sses me off is the relentless pressure to force people to get vaccinated and with vaccines that have NOT been proven safe. You see it in all social media, news sites, Youtube, Facebook, news papers, anything that gets published is trying to pursuade you to get vaccinated.

Mention any form of dissent and it gets banned, censured or simply deleted. I don't trust anything forced on you, especially as there is no garrantee that it either works or is safe in the long term. Its no secret that vaccine manufacturers are indemnified against legal action in most countries, especially those that are supplied from the US.

That tells you how safe their vaccines are.

Then there is another risk for any who are susceptable to covid, the vaccinated carrier who may have had some vaccinations but can still be infected and in turn can infect other people. It makes sense to treat anyone who has been vaccinated as the same risk as anyone else as they can be carriers.

This is why I am a choice person, your body, your problem.

[hutch--]

 

JJ,

> "Do not feed the German troll"

I would never have said that about you but if you insist. 

[Gunther]

JJ,

> "Do not feed the German troll"

I would never have said that about you but if you insist. 

That's true. But what should he do? He has no more arguments. That is why he spreads lies, false numbers and questionable pictures. This narcissist
can't do anything else.

[Shintaro]

So JJ is German?

If so, would you be so kind as to tell me what Germany is like at the moment given what is going on.

From what I hear (through different channels), the price of gas for heating is very high and people are trying to get wood for heating. Which is now very expensive.

What is your opinion on what is going on? Is the Gov doing the right thing?

I prefer to hear from people that are actually in the area.

[hutch--]

That might be difficult as he live in Italy.

[jj2007]

I think India is suing or charging Gates over the vax injuries there.

This is a steaming pile of horseshit: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gates-india/false-claim-bill-gates-faces-trial-in-india-for-testing-vaccines-on-children-idUSKBN22V27F

The study, which was financed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, was cancelled in 2010 after local media reported the death of seven girls taking part.
...
“Five were evidently unrelated to the vaccine: One girl drowned in a quarry; another died from a snake bite; two committed suicide by ingesting pesticides; and one died from complications of malaria. The causes of death for the other two girls were less certain: one possibly from pyrexia, or high fever, and a second from a suspected cerebral hemorrhage.”

would you be so kind as to tell me what Germany is like at the moment given what is going on.

From what I hear (through different channels), the price of gas for heating is very high and people are trying to get wood for heating. Which is now very expensive.

Since Putin started the war (and we all know he is not the only culprit), the price of gas made a big jump. Other energy carriers followed suit, wood and pellets included. So yes, people face very high bills for heating and electricity.

The left-green government tries to keep the soaring prices under control with a 200,000,000,000€ package financed by new debt. It does so pushed by the conservative opposition which, in the last 20 years, had done everything to slow down the renewables while they were in power.

Fortunately, about 50% of the electricity generated comes from wind and solar, despite the sabotage by the conservatives.

what p*sses me off is the relentless pressure to force people to get vaccinated and with vaccines that have NOT been proven safe.

So far, 6.56 Million people died of Covid. China alone has vaccinated 3.4 Billion people. Show me the confirmed deaths of vaccination statistics, from a serious source, so that we can discuss facts instead of opinions. A Google phrase search for "deaths of vaccination" statistics covid is a good starting point.