Ukraine, Tragic but inevitable end

[jj2007]

Once upon a time, the U.S. had serious presidents...

Roosevelt:

big stick diplomacy had five components. First, it was essential to possess serious military capability that would force the adversary to pay close attention. At the time that meant a world-class navy; Roosevelt never had a large army at his disposal. The other qualities were to act justly toward other nations, never to bluff, to strike only when prepared to strike hard, and to be willing to allow the adversary to save face in defeat.

Eisenhower:

we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex

[daydreamer]

Once upon a time, the U.S. had serious presidents...

Roosevelt:

big stick diplomacy had five components. First, it was essential to possess serious military capability that would force the adversary to pay close attention. At the time that meant a world-class navy; Roosevelt never had a large army at his disposal. The other qualities were to act justly toward other nations, never to bluff, to strike only when prepared to strike hard, and to be willing to allow the adversary to save face in defeat.

Eisenhower:

we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex

Monroe doctrine had nothing todo with a blonde bombshell
President Kennedy decided goto the moon
And nowadays it's artemis going to the moon,where backside sea is named sea of Moscow (just researched moon and planets)

[Shintaro]

One nuclear weapons, maybe someone here smarter than me can help.

As I understand it if a nuclear bomb is dropped it:
1/ Impacts the ground creating a crater
2/ Makes the region of ground zero uninhabital for thousands of years.
3/ Incinerates (nothing left standing, every tree, building) everything within a 100 mile radius. (Depending upon the yield of the bomb, I think that is the term)

I have some questions regarding Hiroshima.
1/ Where is the crater in Hiroshima? Picture? I can't seem to find one.
2/ If the bomb was nuclear why are people still able to live there? I thought the whole area would irradiated for a 1000 years.
3/ If the bomb incinerates everything, why are trees and some concrete buildings still standing?

**As far as I am aware, Hiroshima was an old city and the majority of housing was made of wood and wood products.
Please, if I am wrong in something, please correct me.

[hutch--]

CONSPIRATHY THEORY

We know that Joe has termites between his ears  and Kamala is as nutty as a fruit cake  and the culprits are probably the BUGZ so it sould like a malicious plot to take out the human race so that the bugs will inherit the earth. 

[daydreamer]

One nuclear weapons, maybe someone here smarter than me can help.

As I understand it if a nuclear bomb is dropped it:
1/ Impacts the ground creating a crater
2/ Makes the region of ground zero uninhabital for thousands of years.
3/ Incinerates (nothing left standing, every tree, building) everything within a 100 mile radius. (Depending upon the yield of the bomb, I think that is the term)

I have some questions regarding Hiroshima.
1/ Where is the crater in Hiroshima? Picture? I can't seem to find one.
2/ If the bomb was nuclear why are people still able to live there? I thought the whole area would irradiated for a 1000 years.
3/ If the bomb incinerates everything, why are trees and some concrete buildings still standing?

**As far as I am aware, Hiroshima was an old city and the majority of housing was made of wood and wood products.
Please, if I am wrong in something, please correct me.

What is the shinto temple entrance made of because that's the only thing standing in the Hiroshima after bomb photo,the rest is rubble and partly destroyed building?
Most painful deaths was long afterwards got cancer of the radiation
So at one point when they realize that did they clean city from radiation?

[jj2007]

1/ Where is the crater in Hiroshima? Picture? I can't seem to find one.
2/ If the bomb was nuclear why are people still able to live there? I thought the whole area would irradiated for a 1000 years.
3/ If the bomb incinerates everything, why are trees and some concrete buildings still standing?

These are interesting questions. Maybe we should test it on another city? Sydney, Melbourne, Perth?

[hutch--]

> Maybe we should test it on another city? Sydney, Melbourne, Perth?

Now you know why we don't take Europe seriously. 

[caballero]

Tulsi Gabbard, an ex-Democrat congress about the Ukraine war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAfwpfUBw1M

[jj2007]

> Maybe we should test it on another city? Sydney, Melbourne, Perth?

Now you know why we don't take Europe seriously. 

If I see a BS theory, I answer with BS

[hutch--]

I like Tulsi Gabbard, she has that strange disposition of speaking truthfully. She has just recently dumped the Democrats as she sees them as the war party in the US.

Now as far as testing nuclear weapons on someone elses country, there is an ugly fact you have not comprehended, the bigger a country is physically, the harder it is to nuke all of it. Whack Italy with one of the big US or Russian nukes and you would fry everything from Malta to Scandinavia.

Try it on a big country, the US, Russia, China, India and even though the damage would be massive, there would be areas that were barely damaged. OZ is a big place, you would empty a nuclear arsenal and not nuke all of it. A distant hostile place is no joy to attack, the Japanses found out in WW2, they tried bombing the phuk out of Darwin but could not get any further. It was well known that the did various landings on parts of the north west coast but the local indiginous people ate them.

They tried the overland approach via New Guinea and got their arse kicked. Then the US entered the war and they got pushed back to Tokyo.

[TimoVJL]

"This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border," Gabbard tweeted late Wednesday night.

"Seen this argument below in various places & it’s simply not true," Republican Sen. Marco Rubio responded. "A pledge that #Ukraine would never join NATO was not Putin’s only demand. As recently as last week he once again demanded NATO leave every country that joined after 1997 including Bulgaria, Romania & 12 others."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gabbard-ukraine-conflict-avoidable-russia-concerns-ukraine-nato-entry

No one want to backdown, so have to live with that.
In russia are only two big towns, that are directly part of Moscow war, others might care less.

[jj2007]

the local indiginous people ate them.

The approach is somewhat radical but effective

[Shintaro]

> Maybe we should test it on another city? Sydney, Melbourne, Perth?

Now you know why we don't take Europe seriously. 

If I see a BS theory, I answer with BS

It's not a theory, I am asking questions.

[NoCforMe]

One nuclear weapons, maybe someone here smarter than me can help.

As I understand it if a nuclear bomb is dropped it:
1/ Impacts the ground creating a crater

Not necessarily. Unlike "conventional" bombs, nukes aren't detonated on the ground but fairly high up in the air over "ground zero", which is why no huge crater but immensely widespread damage because of the air blast.

3/ Incinerates (nothing left standing, every tree, building) everything within a 100 mile radius. (Depending upon the yield of the bomb, I think that is the term)

Yes, but things like concrete and masonry aren't going to go up in flames.

Actually, the firebombing of Tokyo, which preceded Hiroshima and Nagasaki, created a much more intense firestorm (especially since so many structures were made of wood and paper) and killed far more people than the two nukes.