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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2013, 11:52:04 PM »
I would bet you can feel the ground rumbling when it comes near.

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2013, 12:27:53 AM »
The biggest problem for hunters is with boars that have been wounded. They have large tusks, and because the upper and lower tusks constantly rub on each other they are very sharp. In recent times hunters protect their “hog dogs” with Kevlar vests.
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2013, 06:26:51 AM »
that other one appears to have been a hoax
this one (the one Michael mentioned) seems to be credible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogzilla

not quite as big - but more pig than i want to run into

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2013, 12:55:52 PM »
In OZ pigs were not indigenous and are exclusively domesticated pigs that have gone wild. Apart from crocodiles in the northern part of Australia, there are no predators that keep them in check and without regular shooters helping out, they become a feral nuisance that kill stock and damage property. Long ago I have seen guys try and hunt pigs with .22 rifles which are of little value with a bigger boar, a .303 does the job most of the time but if you want to stop them first shot, a big bore gun is the way to go.

I used to use a .44 magnum Winchester that did the job fine. A .44 Marlin was better but were a nasty noisy thing to use and I have seen guys use solids in a 12# shotgun but they really kick and will sit you on your butt if you don't know how to use them. Main problem is folks who have only ever lived in urban environments have no idea of the feral animal problem in OZ and only think in terms of their own safety as they perceive it and the end result is drive by shooting in Sydney's western suburbs, armed criminals, drug dealers with exotic toys like Uzzis and the terrorist market who have things like RPGs and specialised assault rifles.

The people who need them are pissed around so badly that they no longer bother and folks on properties even when the jump through hoops to get the licences cannot hunt in adjoining national parks so they can never beat the odds of dogs, cats, pigs, horses, donkeys, camels and anything else much that are out of control.
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2013, 03:19:05 PM »
Pigs Gone Wild ?   :biggrin:


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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2013, 04:04:45 PM »
3 out of 4 could be taken down with a 30-30
but, that one requires something heavier   :lol:

were it not for the re-load time, i would think a .50 muzzle-loader would be ideal
i hate to use slugs on a shotgun for fear of damaging the barrel
but, if you had one that wasn't particularly special, probably a good way to go

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2013, 10:49:45 PM »
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cannot hunt in adjoining national parks so they can never beat the odds of dogs, cats, pigs, horses, donkeys, camels and anything else much that are out of control.

   Probably not good hunting, but how are the rabbits and cane
toads doing?

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2013, 11:01:09 PM »
Those 'Pigs' are caressing their batons too much for my liking  :eusa_dance:  :icon_eek:
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2013, 01:01:36 AM »
Steve,

Sad to say both are doing really well, Mixo worked well on the rabbits but the cow cockies got lazy and did not dig out the remaining borrows and eventually you got resistant strains of rabbits. When the cane toads were brought here from South America, they were supposed to eat a particular beetle in the cane fields which did not happen but they adapted very well and have gone forth and multiplied and multiplied and multiplied.

Davce,

Do you mean "Walk on the wild side" ? Surely your better half wised you up to 1960s English "camp" humour. There used to be a team of actors who did series like "On the busses" and a whole host of other similar TV programs. I confess I could not stand any of it but I could listen to Dick Emery and even Benny Hill if I was bored.
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2013, 01:33:16 AM »
wifee is a bit younger, but she is still into the old humour - lol
they like puns alot, and think you are really smart if you can get about 4 of them in one sentance
and, they have an obsession with humour involving rabbits (she explained that one to me)
some British humour, i need her to explain to me, then it still isn't funny   :biggrin:
some of it's funny - some of it, i can take for about 10 minutes
a while back, i tried to watch Monty Python Holy Grail - zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2013, 10:40:40 AM »
30-30 is a bit weak on the power side.

No offense intended to that cartridge.

Andy

P.S. I prefer something that can penetrate a motor block, like a 41 magnum etc.
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2013, 11:07:28 AM »
Last week I talked to a guy that hunts feral hogs with bow and arrow, because the landowners don’t want people shooting guns there.
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2013, 11:39:36 AM »
i haven't looked at the Arizona laws for javelina, lately
but, i seem to recall they had a much better deal if you used a bow
a little surprising, as they have had trouble with them coming into urban areas, from time to time
you'd think they would want to thin them out

the big deals here are elk and, especially, big-horned sheep
it's hard enough to get drawn for elk
but, i think they only hand out a few big-horned sheep tags each year

they also have black bear tags - i don't know how many they hand out - probably not many
as long as i have lived here, i have never seen a bear in the wild - lol

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2013, 06:41:06 AM »
When the cane toads were brought here from South America, they were supposed to eat a particular beetle in the cane fields which did not happen but they adapted very well and have gone forth and multiplied and multiplied and multiplied.

They have reached Italy now!! HELP!!!

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2013, 09:27:10 AM »
When the cane toads were brought here from South America, they were supposed to eat a particular beetle in the cane fields which did not happen but they adapted very well and have gone forth and multiplied and multiplied and multiplied.

They have reached Italy now!! HELP!!!

Man tends to think that he "can help God" and do things like that.

Texas has a problem with Chinese tallow trees.

It is considered an invasive species.

But it looks the Chinese have a different perspective.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_tallow
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