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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2013, 11:44:20 AM »
JJ,

> They have reached Italy now!! HELP!!!

Is that what they call Berlesconi in Italy these days ?
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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2013, 05:06:32 PM »
Is that what they call Berlesconi in Italy these days ?

Nope, but I offer a beer to the one who has the magic powers to transform him into a toad :icon14:

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Re: Further failures of the gun grabbers in OZ
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2013, 03:42:26 AM »
Gun controls is not about guns. Is about control.

None of the collectivist are asking that government disarm itself. So the problem is not with the guns, but the notion that people that government do not approve of should not have access to guns.

To all of them I give one word: DEMOCIDE.

Collectivist: Those who believe that the collective owns the individual and thus there are no rights, but privileges given by the collective. This makes the individual not better than a slave to the whims of the collective.

Individualists: Those who believe that each and every individual owns itself, and thus have unalienable rights. Including, but not limited,  the right to defend yourself. The collective does not grant rights. The collective just recognize rights. Thus it cannot grant, nor remove the rights of the individual.