reason to switch to 64 Bit Assembler

[drifter]

on: February 26, 2013, 09:24:23 PM Gunther wrote:

but that could be reached with a 64 bit architecture

I thought 64 bit architecture could only reach 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 bits?

By the way, you'll find a few 64 bit applications in the forum, which I've written.

Thanks!  I definately look forward to studying those (once I get up to speed on 32 bits).

[drifter]

on: February 26, 2013, 10:08:02 PM habran wrote:

your is i7 2.8 gig and mine is i7 2.3 but speed is double
I am curies why is that?

I probably didn't have my computer set up for an optimum running of the race - it was just my standard operating configuration.  I did close down all other applications, including the ones I didn't need in the toolbar - there's probably a lot more I could have shut down in task manager.

[Gunther]

Hi drifter,

I thought 64 bit architecture could only reach 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 bits?

please, have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_architecture

Gunther

[dedndave]

Frederick,
these tests are normally written to run with elevated prioriity
you shouldn't have to close down background apps to get decent results
provided the guy followed a few simple guidelines   :P

[habran]

Hi habran,

the number of clock cycles it takes for a processor to do something doesn't make a very good benchmark

that's the answer.
Gunther

.if (Gunther && dedndave)
    would please explain
    to habran
    jmp understand
    nop
    nop
understand:
   return knowlage
.endif

[drifter]

on: Feburary 26, 2013 at 07:02:09 AM dedndave wrote:

these tests are normally written to run with elevated prioriity
you shouldn't have to close down background apps to get decent results

I put this computer together a couple of years ago with and I've been very happy with it:

Computer:
MSI P55-GD80 Motherboard w/Intel Core i7CPU @ 2.8 Ghz
2 x 27" Samsung LCD monitors
2 x Seagate ST32000641AS - Barracuda XT 2 TB Hard drives
16 GB RAM
Windows 8 64-bit

Desk:
Apogee Rosetta 800 AD/DA 8-channel converter
Lexicon PCM80 Digital Effects Processor
Lexicon PCM90 Digital Reverberator
Focusrite ISA-110 Limited Edition pre-amp/equalizer
Avalon Vt-737sp Vacuum Tube pre-amp/compressor/equalizer

Miscellaneous:
Neumann U87 Ai Condenser microphone
M-Audio Keystation Pro88 keyboard

Software:
Cakewalk Sonar/Dimension Pro/Rapture (64-bit)
Sony Sound Forge/Acid/Vegas/CD Architect /DVD Architect
Spectrasonics Stylus RMX/Trilian/Omnishpere

and of course:
MASM32
IDA Pro 5.3
Visual Studio 2005

[habran]

hey drifter,
that looks impressive and neat :shock:
how did you pay your wife to arrange all this for you ;)
however, your screens are to high and you get probably quickly tired of looking at it
 

[dedndave]

when we run these tests....

do:
compare algo A to algo B on computer 1
compare algo A to algo B on computer 2

do not:
compare algo A on computer 1 to algo A on computer 2
compare algo B on computer 1 to algo B on computer 2

[drifter]

on: Feburary 26, 2013 at 09:10:54 AM habran wrote:

how did you pay your wife to arrange all this for you

I have a Russian wife - she still thinks it's her duty...

however, your screens are to high and you get probably quickly tired of looking at it

If I have to read something, I take it to kinkos have it printed..

[habran]

drifter

I have a Russian wife - she still thinks it's her duty...

I am *much *much younger than you but I have learned in my life that
NOTHING is for free in this world ;)




*much = 1 year :lol:

[habran]

when we run these tests....

do:
compare algo A to algo B on computer 1
compare algo A to algo B on computer 2

do not:
compare algo A on computer 1 to algo A on computer 2
compare algo B on computer 1 to algo B on computer 2

is that how you test which processor is faster?

[dedndave]

no - we don't want to know which processor is faster   :P

we want to know which algorithm is best, let's say, overall

do:
compare algo A to algo B on computer 1
compare algo A to algo B on computer 2

do not:
compare algo A on computer 1 to algo A on computer 2
compare algo B on computer 1 to algo B on computer 2

the real information is in (algo B)/(algo A) on a given processor
you might compare that ratio with the same ratio on another processor

we aren't here to measure cpu's   :t

[habran]

we aren't here to measure cpu's   :t

so, you think I was rude to be curious :shock:

interesting to see the difference in speed with different processors
your is i7 2.8 gig and mine is i7 2.3 but speed is double
I am curies why is that?
Gunter, your is i7 3,4 gig and still slower than qWord's and mine

that was not a provocation it was a curios technical question:
to put it that way:
you are a salesman and I ask you as a customer:
"why would I by i7 6.8 gig if i7 2.3 gig runs faster?"  :icon_confused:
and you tell me: "i7 6.8 gig sounds better, you moron" :icon_mrgreen:

[dedndave]

a clock cycle on one cpu is not the same as a clock cycle on another (moron)   :lol:

someone posted the comparison of specs - then removed it
but, i suspect the ratio of internal to external bus clocks might have something to do with it

if you want to know which is fastest, run a real-time benchmark test
set up a test to measure minutes and seconds to accomplish some specific task
then run the same test on both machines
you want it to be fairly long, say a few minutes or so

[habran]

now you talking... :lol:
I thought bicycle, motorcycle, reversecycle, evercycle wtfcycle...  are the same
thanks dedndave :t