new computer built

[shankle]

I appreciate that Magnum.
It's just that I have had problems with the false advertising by Macrium.

[Magnum]

I can relate.

I have a program that works.

If you do not want what I offer, that is your decision.

Having a hard time with hiccups that is driving me crazy. :-)

[shankle]

It is not my intention to be nasty to anyone.
I am so turned off  by Macrium from my years ago experience
with them. I had run their backup and some time later my
puter failed and I tried to run their recovery and guess what.
They wanted money first. That little piece of information
should have been upfront. If it was I would never have bothered.
Thanks again for your offer. 

[dedndave]

Jack...

i highly recommend that you get a scratch drive and go through the recovery process, at least once
it will force you to have all your ducks in a row

the backup images should be on a seperate partition (not the boot partition)
and, you need to create a recovery CD

it takes about 30 minutes or so   :t

with EaseUS Todo, it is important that the images and the CD were created using the same version software   

[shankle]

Hi Dave,
I've got the Easeus backup on an external HD.
I got to thinking about the recovery process after reading you message.
If I have to restore with Easeus presumably the C drive has failed.
Now I have no Easeus .  Only the Easeaus backup on the external drive.
So the recovery CD should enable me to recover from the external HD.
RIGHT?
If Easeus comes out with a newer version of their software, is it true that
older backup versions and the recovery CD  will no longer work and must be scrapped?
If you have to time I would appreciate your response to this message.

[dedndave]

i don't think USB devices will be recognized until after an OS boots
(well - maybe - i guess some have booted from USB drives ???)
it may be different on newer machines
that's why i suggest partitioning the main drive with a small area for images

as to versions...
it's ok - because you presumably create the image with the same version as the CD
just a "good to know" factoid   

[shankle]

Thanks Dave for responding.
I think you missed my point about the C drive failure.
If it fails you have no backups. You only have the CD boot disk.

I also thought I had only to create a boot disk one time until
a new version of Easeus came out. This is one reason why I
liked Clonezilla-live so much. I didn't have any of these problems.

Procedure I am going to follow to restore Windows 7 test:
Disconnect the regular Windows HD. In another bay put in a scratch HD.
Connect my External HD with the USB connector and Insert the Restore dvd. 
Hit the Go button and see what happens........

Needless to say I am really confused now.....

[dedndave]

one solution is to put the images on CD's, i guess
but, i prefer a small partition on the same drive

as to version - keep in mind - just because they come out with a new version doesn't mean you have to update
just be sure that, if you do update the software, your old image might be useless
with Todo (or any backup program), you can install once and not update
now, if they add a desired feature, you might want to update - but can't think of what that would be - lol

i simply created images and CD's with the same version - then stay with that version
in truth, once you have made the CD's and images, you no longer need the software running on the boot drive   

[anunitu]

One real solution would be for MS to have a system backup program built in that could cover all needs...perhaps in Windows 10...an easy backup solution from the MS people...that's the ticket...

[shankle]

Sorry Dave,
I'm still confused. If I put the images on a cd/dvd. Mind I have 1 cd/dvd installed in
the computer. How will that help me when I need to put the recovery disk in that drive?
Have you tried a recovery assuming the HD failed?   

[dedndave]

once the restoration CD has booted, it should fly without it and allow you to put in image CD(s)
i haven't done it that way, but it seems plausible

this is why i suggest a cold run - to see what the process is like
then, when you actually need to do it, you won't be in fear   

[shankle]

Thanks again Dave.
I created a winpe recovery dvd. Directions were in bad English. The scroll bar didn't go
all the way across and yet another windows came up with confusing directions.
So I canceled the run and assumed it finished which I think it did.
Again the directions for creating the disk were confusing. I have no idea if I created
the correct recovery dvd. Will so find out :icon_confused:

[dedndave]

yah - WinPE disks are a bit confusing - lol
there is a CHM file in the WinPE download package that is helpful, though
also, https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/ has some info - use the search tool

and, there are others - Barts PE, PE Builder, and so on
i think that stuff is available through http://www.msfn.org/board/

[shankle]

So did I make the wrong kind of a recovery disk??

I tested from the external hd and the recovery disk and
it was a no go. So you must be right Dave. The restore won't
work from a USB. So it appears that Easeus won't work for me.
There must be a vast difference from a backup and a disaster
backup. With Clonzilla-live it was a disaster backup.
I'm in a bit of a bind with no backup that works. :(

[dedndave]

give this a try.....

create a linux boot disk, instead (you don't care what the OS is while you're recovering)
http://www.todo-backup.com/products/features/backup-bootableCD.htm

although - that will make your USB a bootable linux image, i guess

here's how i do it.....
partition the hard drive - and leave a small partition for the recovery image
probably 15 to 20 GB is large enough - but, you already know if you've made the image files

copy the images over to that partition
create a bootable CD using Todo

when you boot from that CD, the image partition is visible

notice - if you use EaseUS Partition Master, you can resize the existing partition without destroying data   :t
with Partition Master, you tell it what you want to do - then click the Apply icon to make it happen
as i recall, if you resize the current boot partition, it will tell you that you must reboot to do it
once that's done, you can create the second partition