Funny u should mention it. I just reviewed C++, went thru my 30-year old notes, and compared to C++11, to tell Gunther and qWord what I disliked about it. A day later I find myself hankering to get back to it! It has a lot of attractive points, makes a lot of sense, extremely logical - until u get down to certain details, and a lot of modern extras that as far as I can see just mess it up. I wonder if there's a compiler (or, maybe, a new language) that leaves out the "bad" parts and keeps just the good ones.