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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2015, 04:35:13 AM »
Sad to say no country is the exclusive owner of population based stupidity, it does appear to be a universal trait that all countries share. Different countries have different expressions, one of my more respectable favourites for that element in OZ is "yobboes", I have heard the expression "wallies" used by the English and I have no doubt that most countries have an appropriate slang for people who do collectively stupid things.

The problem with referring to sections of a society as "sheep" and similar is the assumption of elitism by the sayer when by any objective standard they are just bleating like the rest of the sheep.
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2015, 04:35:57 AM »
@dedndave,

There's a deliberate ambiguity in the statement about "American people think", viz., it may mean they think as individuals, or as a body or group. As individuals of course we do in fact "think", but not as a body, the "American public". "Public opinion" is defined by a tiny cadre of rich New Yorkers, plus a few others (not all US citizens, either) - somewhere between 30 to 3000 people (depending how you look at it) define "our" opinion, determine foreign policy and the results of elections, etc. It's in that sense my statement applies: the people don't think as a group, their thinking is done for them by a handful of people; they're told what to think.

Perhaps it's not reasonable, but I expect the statement to be taken in that way; since obviously it's ridiculous to say all Americans, as individuals, don't think. After all you and I are US citizens and we both think, right? So does Kelsey down at the corner convenience store; even politicians (and they don't get any more non-thinking than that!) think as individuals. Since it's stupid for me to state that I (as an American) don't think (!) I assume you'll realize I mean the other interpretation.

[edit] @hutch, just read your post. As u see I'm not saying "All Americans except me and a few select others are sheep"; rather I'm saying all of us, collectively (me included), don't "think" effectively about political issues. Rather, a tiny handful of the rich define our opinion, foreign policy etc. The least aware of Americans - Kelsey for instance - know that perfectly well. I hope you see the difference.
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2015, 05:42:51 PM »

To avoid scholar study i will give a sample of "what you think".
Obama trying to promote a law banning the sale of weapons to dangerous individuals.
What you thing is that is good,Institute Survey had show it
What you do is another thing,and the law isn't pass.
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2015, 06:31:36 PM »
> talking about what the US people "think"...They don't think.

This just sounds like elitist bullsh*t to me.
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2015, 08:55:20 PM »
so when are you gonna make "Tintin in russia" Herge? :P
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2015, 09:24:12 PM »
 Hi daydreamer2:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Land_of_the_Soviets
 www.tintinmilou.free.fr/english.htm Not the official Tintin site but it is very good site none the less.

 Not a very good story but if was the first of 23 complete Tintin and Snowy
 stories, or cartoons. Herge later said he did not like it. Not converted to    color
 and only published in English after Herge's death. The other 22 books are
 great.

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2015, 11:41:49 PM »
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What you thing is that is good,Institute Survey had show it
What you do is another thing,and the law isn't pass.

- ignoring many details - that's what I'm saying: American's thoughts have no effect on gov't actions, it's as though they don't exist

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This just sounds like elitist bullsh*t to me.

- deal with it
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2015, 01:23:48 AM »
[quot]
- ignoring many details
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Seem you are just ignoring yourself of what is said of the US outside.
In Europe,we know lobbies (same word) and information is complete on the subject.

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2015, 01:26:10 AM »
>> This just sounds like elitist bullsh*t to me.

> - deal with it

I did.  :P
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2015, 03:41:54 AM »
Seem you are just ignoring yourself of what is said of the US outside.

- As it happens I lived overseas almost half my life. In the old days everyone said good things about US; but for last 40 years or so, mostly bad and getting worse. Is that what you mean? I don't ignore it particularly, but there's nothing I can do about it.

- Europeans can't imagine how powerful lobbies (etc) are here. Your Gini index is about 34, here it's at least 60 or more. That means that half the money is in the hands of a few thousand people: that means they own the country. One mega-billionaire could pay the entire lifetime salaries of the President, the Congress, Supreme Court, and heads of major agencies (IRS, CIA etc) - including pensions - and not even notice it! Democracy is a joke in these circumstances.

- Putin is right: you must rein in the oligarchs or your country will no longer be "yours".

- I'll be happy to tell you anything you want to know, from my perspective, but if you're looking for optimistic, cheerful news you must look elsewhere.

- Maybe I'll feel better after some coffee ...

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2015, 05:34:21 PM »
- Putin is right: you must rein in the oligarchs or your country will no longer be "yours".
He knows that, wealthy man.

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2015, 07:21:06 PM »

 Hello:

 From Google Putin Jokes they even have categories oh my!

 http://www.sickipedia.org/celebrities/vladimir-putin

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2015, 09:27:03 PM »
These are as poor as your first list.
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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2015, 11:24:39 PM »

To avoid scholar study i will give a sample of "what you think".
Obama trying to promote a law banning the sale of weapons to dangerous individuals.
they need that law here too, a politican suggest that changing laws so handgrenades Count as weapon,not explosives, because having a weapon gives you harder punishment than a handgrenade
and lately criminals throw handgrenades Malmö city not one or two times but often
scary, because earlier I lived in just that city part, they throw grenades in

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Re: Latest Russian Jokes
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2015, 02:28:16 AM »
Quote from: hutch
These are as poor as your first list.

- thanks for the warning! Maybe something gets lost in translation, but those are some poor jokes alright

Quote from: ToutEnMasm
Obama trying to promote a law banning the sale of weapons to dangerous individuals.

- the problem is, the people determining who's dangerous (the "justice" dep't) are themselves known, dangerous crooks. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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