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« on: October 08, 2015, 11:34:30 PM »
IF Hillary gets elected president :(
She will appoint Billyboy as vice president.
Does it follow that Billyboy can hire Monica as his private secretary?
After all she has previous experience.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2015, 12:18:27 AM »
I don't think Hillary and Billyboy are the right team... you can do better:
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Re: presidents
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2015, 05:13:58 AM »
dibs on monica
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2015, 05:15:36 AM »
If I had to apportion support back in the era of Sarah Dumbcluck, I would have voted for the moose.
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Re: presidents
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2015, 08:27:03 AM »
How about Monica Bellucci?
Looks good, darker hair than Obama, more brains as George W Bush...

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Re: presidents
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2015, 08:59:12 AM »
I confess I always felt sorry for Monica Lewinski, she was only a kid at the time and copped so much bad press that it did her a lot of damage which she did not deserve. The real fault was Clinton conducting an atrocity against a cigar and I am of the view that he should have been impeached for sheer bad taste.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2015, 05:21:34 PM »
..I am of the view that he should have been impeached for sheer bad taste.
That wouldn't have held up.. plausible deniability, as he wasn't doing the tasting  :badgrin:
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Re: presidents
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2015, 11:02:51 PM »
I hope the coming lawsuit against Billary puts and end to the Billary dynasty.
Others would have to spend jail time doing what she has done.

Sanders is the least of two evils. His being Socialism. It is a system that just
promotes the leaches to do nothing to earn their keep.

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Re: presidents
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2015, 12:47:12 AM »
I hope the coming lawsuit against Billary puts and end to the Billary dynasty.
Others would have to spend jail time doing what she has done.

Jail time for keeping emails on a private server? Explain 8)

New lawsuit tests Hillary Clinton's claim private email system was legal

I am curious how Trump will deal with Assad, Putin, Merkel etc; he always has bright ideas :biggrin:
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Re: presidents
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2015, 04:45:31 AM »
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Jail time for keeping emails on a private server? Explain

- Her actions violated security. There are very strict rules regarding Confidential / Secret material. One of the most elementary, you can't post it on your own private server.

- For example, one time I was working on targeting algos for the new torpedo. That was pre-computer, did my calculations with pencil and paper (those were the days!). In the morning I'd take some fresh 8 x 11's and stamp them "Secret" top and bottom, then use them through the day. (This was convenient because I had to sign in / out the stamp, which took 10 minutes; didn't want to do that 10 times a day.) At the end of one day I had a few pages left over. I knew they should be shredded but hated to waste them so "hid" them in my desk. Next day they were gone, instead there was a note to report to Security Chief immediately! My desk (and rubbish) was searched every night (didn't know that). He reamed me a new rectal orifice, but no reprimand (first time minor offense). These were completely blank pages - but they were stamped, so had to be treated according to the rules.

- If I had privately mailed those pages to somebody (didn't have email in those days) I would have done jail time; especially if they actually had secret material written on them!

- I decided that, although it sounds silly, the rules were right. If you're going to have security it must be taken seriously or the whole thing just falls apart. You can't have individual workers, such as me or Hilary, deciding that "one little page won't hurt ...". Security violation is, technically, treason, no matter how small. In her case she did this with thousands of important documents.

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Re: presidents
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2015, 04:27:31 PM »
Security violation is, technically, treason, no matter how small. In her case she did this with thousands of important documents.

Not quite treason:

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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. -- Article 3, section 3 US constitution.

But certainly a felony. BTW You where lucky that in those days most people still retained some common sense.




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Re: presidents
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2015, 05:21:23 PM »
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Security violation is, technically, treason

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Treason ... shall consist .... in ... adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort

- I have to agree, my statement is incorrect. Still gov't employees are told, more or less, what I said - to emphasize that we must not be lax about security! the idea is that violating security can be part of spying. So a violation which is for some other reason (like carelessness) is not treason. But, if you put documents in private letters, or private servers, it certainly could be construed as an attempt to communicate the info to the enemy (whoever that may be). Of course they'd have to prove that was your motive.

- In Hilary's case obviously she was just lax, can't imagine she was trying to communicate info to the enemy (whoever that may be) by putting it on her hackable private server, so you're right, no one will accuse her of treason. Just a felony - still, liable to a possible jail sentence.
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