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Ivermectin testing.
« on: March 15, 2022, 07:34:59 PM »
This is an interesting video. The guy is hard to listen to but he is citing unusual data. It could be argued that the supression of Ivermectin was part of the scam to force everyone to be a guinea pig for Pfizer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA

There is also a very good chance that you will not suffer any parasitic infestations either with Ivermectin.  :biggrin:
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Re: Ivermectin testing.
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 08:30:52 PM »
This video is even more shocking....

How WHO advisor turns and prevents approval of pandemic-ending, effective and safe medicine (Ivermectine)
More than a year ago, there were ample peer-reviewed, randomized controlled trials that provided strong evidence for the efficacy of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID at any stage of disease.

The lead author Dr. Andrew Hill of the University of Liverpool wrote a paper about these many studies for the World Health Organization's COVID Guideline Development Group.
Hill was an early and staunch proponent of ivermectin. His paper showed that ivermectin could reduce deaths by 75% if used around the world.

Inexplicably, the article appeared on a preprint server a few days before publication, with the conclusions changed.
Rather than concluding that ivermectin - one of the safest and cheapest drugs in the world - should be introduced worldwide, it was now concluded that more research on ivermectin was needed before it could be recommended worldwide.
Given the total scientific evidence for ivermectin, this was an amazing, actually shocking, reversal by Dr. Hill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAZyHy7PCdY
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Re: Ivermectin testing.
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2022, 10:44:37 PM »
Given the total scientific evidence for ivermectin

https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/8/11/ofab358/6316214?login=false
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On July 6, 2021, Open Forum Infectious Diseases published the article “Meta-analysis of Randomized Trials of Ivermectin to Treat SARS-CoV-2 Infection” by Hill, et al. Subsequently, we and the authors learned that one of the largest studies on which this analysis was based was withdrawn due to fraudulent data
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Are the authors aware of the the retraction of the pre-print by Elgazzar et al. (https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-100956/v1) over concerns of potential scientific fraud and breach of ethical conduct? This study was the largest study by patient number included in the meta-analysis, and also had the largest drug effect.

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How my ivermectin research led to Twitter death threats
Andrew Hill

I was sent images of coffins and hanged Nazi war criminals after finding medical fraud in clinical trials

https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted/
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Why Was a Major Study on Ivermectin for COVID-19 Just Retracted?
July 15, 2021 by Jack Lawrence
Questions about potential data fabrication, plagiarism, and ethical breaches led to the withdrawal of a study that formed a critical component of the pro-ivermectin case.

Who says the truth, who's lying? I don't know... but you certainly know, and you certainly don't have any doubts, Marinus - right?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2022, 11:27:56 PM »
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Who says the truth, who's lying? I don't know... but you certainly know, and you certainly don't have any doubts, Marinus - right?

Don't shoot the messenger.  :biggrin:
Not my words.
The video is self explaining.......
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 11:42:15 PM »
Here is a fascinating lecture about the main pillar of Andrew Hill's study, the Elgazzar paper.
Google finds plenty of hits for "Andrew Hill" "Elgazzar" (but of course, YouTube is owned by Google, too, and therefore a credible source :tongue:)

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2022, 11:51:26 PM »
Did you watch the video?
It shows a zoom meeting with Andrew Hill, listen to his own words and watch his nervous behaviour.

Lawrie confronted him, after which Hill hinted that he had his text written by Unitaid, a group that Bill Gates has invested in, among others.
Thanks to Hill's meta-study, ivermectin was no longer allowed to be used as a drug against corona.
Gates was then given plenty of room to roll out his vaccines.

The video shows how Hill turned 180 degrees at the last minute and advised against the proven effect of ivermectin and against its use.
With disastrous consequences.

On video how a scientist hired by the WHO allowed himself to be corrupted so that the world could not use cheap ivermectin against covid.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2022, 12:12:50 AM »
One of the authors of preprint was my Farmacology professor. His research group begun some small trials in 2020. Following his suggestions, everybody here consume Ivermectina when received COVID positive confirmation. The problem is that more than 95% of people for sure don't needed, and anybody know long term effects of high dosis. I forget now, but it's around 20 times antiparasitary dosis.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2022, 01:12:14 AM »
Did you watch the video?

19 minutes of an angry lady intimidating Andrew Hill. The music is sweet, though.

Did you read the article about the Elgazzar paper? I like facts.
https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2022, 03:26:09 AM »
Did you watch the video?

19 minutes of an angry lady intimidating Andrew Hill. The music is sweet, though.

Did you read the article about the Elgazzar paper? I like facts.
https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602

His (Gideon M-K) end conclusion: "I don’t know for sure that this study is fraudulent."

Speaking about intimidation?  Facts don't care about emotions.
If Andrew Hill could get hands on ivermectin, he would cure his 58 years old brother if he caught covid. ( his own words. )
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2022, 03:54:07 AM »
If Andrew Hill could get hands on ivermectin

That have no sense. Here, from years, is available human formulation, but a lot of friends used Ivermectin formulations for horse  :biggrin:.

Naturally, Ivermectin was thinked a tool when no vaccines were available. Not so interesting now for COVID. Perhaps finally result useful in some immune deficiencies or specifics problems.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2022, 10:02:51 AM »
My take on Ivermectin is this, as long as you don't take truly massive doses it will do you no harm AND you probably will not have any parasite problems either. If it does display any benefit which is an area of debate, you get it at no extra cost, no RNA damage, no vaccine based deaths and no rediculous costs at a government level to keep buying expensive vacines.

The reason why it has been so severely attacked, banned and discouraged is the SCAM, don't be healthy, just get VACCINATED. Who cares if it kills you or seriously injures you, as long as you get VACCINATED !

I have kept running into this bullsh*t over and over again, MSM have fed the donkeys the same propaganda, don't do any research, you are not competent to do that, just go to a DOK TAR and get vaccinated !
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2022, 10:52:23 AM »
My take on Ivermectin is this, as long as you don't take truly massive doses it will do you no harm

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The progress of mass, community-directed, treatment with ivermectin (CDTI) for onchocerciasis control was disrupted by severe adverse effects (SAE)
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Between the years 2003 and 2017, the total average population treated was around 15,552,588 among which 945 cases of SAE were registered in DR Congo, i.e. 6 cases of SAE for 100,000 persons treated per year. 55 deaths related to post-CDTI SAE were recorded, which represents 5.8% of all cases of SAE.

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More Than 11 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Vaccine Tracker

11e9/15,552,588*55=38,900 dead people if they had taken Ivermectin instead of the vaccine.


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Re: Ivermectin testing.
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2022, 12:18:48 PM »
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> More Than 11 Billion Shots Given

This is assuming that ALL of the cases were subject to infection. It also assumes that the active supression of any alternative data is OK and if anyone dies from being VACCINATED, that evidence is supressed as well.

If the VACCINATION was so good, why is it NOT indemnified ? Get sick and die and your relatives have no recourse.

Just remember the Pfizer experimental vaccinations in west Africa, they had to fork out a fortune in compensation, are YOU willing to take the risk ?  :eusa_pray:

Look on the bright side, your sacrifice helps a Pfizer exec buy a second Lear jet.  :rofl:
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2022, 12:25:48 PM »
What are costs of Ivermectin ?
Cheaper than Viagra ?
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2022, 12:36:01 PM »
Hutch,
Make calculations again, vaccine is a lot cheap.
But You can do what You want because you are vaccinated  :thumbsup:

JJ,
Pay attention. Sometimes a very effective drug is a problem because death parasites release molecules with endotoxic effect and local reactions happen in the place parasite dye, problem is not the drug itself. Naturally more studies are necessary, but my friends don't have problems with 20 times usual dosis.  Somebody used long- duration cow formulation (which have very problematic oils) and he have enteric problems  :biggrin:, but it's a second hand stories.
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